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====== Euroliquid ====== | ====== Euroliquid ====== | ||
- | one mind, one heart one soul. | + | one mind, one heart, one soul. |
- | == Preamble == | + | ===== the working group ===== |
- | This is the summary of many brainstormings held in phisical | + | |
+ | The meeting on 2012-05-17 initiated the planning and forming of a European Liquid Feedback instance to develop a //best common denominator// | ||
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+ | If you are interested in participating in this working group here are more details: | ||
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+ | ^ Wiki | http:// | ||
+ | ^ Mailing list | [[pp-eu.euroliquid@lists.pp-international.net|pp-eu.euroliquid@lists.pp-international.net]] | | ||
+ | ^ ML registration | http:// | ||
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+ | ===== current state ===== | ||
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+ | We have not taken any design decisions as yet (we aren't even entitled to). | ||
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+ | The Italian PP has developed a Bootstrap Proposal as provided below which allows to use it to shape its own future configuration from inside. This plan has been approved by the Permanent General Assembly of the PP-IT, which is itself implemented in a Liquid Feedback instance. | ||
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+ | A survey in the German national LQFB has produced [[https:// | ||
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+ | ===== Bootstrap Proposal ===== | ||
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+ | Long term set-up principles: | ||
+ | * For transparency, | ||
+ | * Participants are politicians thus bound to transparency. Their realnames and affiliations are displayed in their public profiles. Further data is optional. | ||
+ | * The database shall be downloadable in its entirety so anyone can set up a mirror of it. | ||
+ | * Should the European Pirates be doubtful of the Italian administration, | ||
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+ | The euroliquid bootstrap is a sort of " | ||
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+ | * We only create one area called " | ||
+ | * We only admit one delegate per partipating EU country to start with, so you have to coordinate among each other what your vote should be. You can use your own liquid feedback to find your party' | ||
+ | * We only create one voting-policy which is 100%-majority also known as consensus. | ||
+ | * To even start the debate, the quorum is at 50/100 - so the majority of participants needs to agree that something needs to be debated. | ||
+ | * For a proposal to pass to the vote, 10/100 support is sufficient, so you can add an extra voting option last-minute in the verification period and have a couple of folks support it. | ||
+ | * For rapid bootstrap it has a one two day new, four day debate, one day verify and three day vote policy. This is just for bootstrap presuming there will always be one delegate per member party that finds the time to participate. | ||
+ | * Whenever consensus isn't reached on time, we can reopen the same debate. | ||
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+ | The things we will have to find consensus upon are: | ||
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+ | * Potential changes to the bootstrap policies above. | ||
+ | * Weighting maths for future non-consensus voting: by which formula do some countries get more voting power then others? Population size? Success of respective Pirate Party? | ||
+ | * How to handle participation of non-EU members. | ||
+ | * How to handle multi-ethnic/ | ||
+ | * Certification and administration procedures for slowly growing the number of participants: | ||
+ | * Suitable "no protection" | ||
+ | * Develop the policies for long-term euroliquid discussion areas: debate on statute amendments and programmatic themes. | ||
+ | * Consider long haul policies for longer debates and majority vote options. | ||
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+ | The euroliquid bootstrap process may appear a bit strange at first, but the short term goal is to have several delegates per country, the mid term goal is to have hundreds of Pirates (and large-majority-based decision making) and the long term goal is to one day be able to host all Pirates that are willing to take on the responsability of being a European politician. | ||
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+ | To achieve that we will have to wait for newer versions of the software that allow for weighted voting of participants. Until then we do the weighting by a counted number of participants. We can slowly grow the system into the hundreds of Pirate participants per country and still be weighted by a fair formula that respects big and small countries - and we can decide together when and how to do this. The speed at which we move there depends on the priority all the parties give to it and provide for accreditations of further participants. | ||
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+ | == Possible Further Steps == | ||
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+ | The lynX' vision of things is documented on http:// | ||
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+ | ===== Euroliquid Model ===== | ||
+ | |||
+ | ==== Preamble | ||
+ | This is the summary of many brainstormings held in physical | ||
For more details feel free to write me | For more details feel free to write me | ||
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or just join! :) | or just join! :) | ||
- | ===== Euroliquid working group ===== | + | === Who === |
- | The meeting on May 17th 2012 initiated the planning and forming of a European organization. | + | |
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- | By the way raised the idea to implement a e-democracy tool in order to allow any pirate of European Union to take part to the decisional system. | + | |
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- | ===== Who ===== | + | |
Mainly are involved the Pirate Parties of Europe and particularly EU; | Mainly are involved the Pirate Parties of Europe and particularly EU; | ||
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all the pirates interested in this project. | all the pirates interested in this project. | ||
- | ===== When ===== | + | === When === |
The project just began, we must be ready for EU elections of 2014. | The project just began, we must be ready for EU elections of 2014. | ||
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- | ===== Where ===== | ||
- | If you are interested in participating in this working group here are more details: | ||
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- | ^ Permanent Assembly | ||
- | ^ Location | ||
- | ^ Wiki | http:// | ||
- | ^ Mailing list | [[pp-eu.euroliquid@lists.pp-international.net|pp-eu.euroliquid@lists.pp-international.net]] | | ||
- | ^ ML registration | http:// | ||
The Euroliquid group is open to anyone who is interested in contributing to the foundation of a Pirate Party at european level. | The Euroliquid group is open to anyone who is interested in contributing to the foundation of a Pirate Party at european level. | ||
- | ===== What ===== | + | === What === |
Euroliquid! | Euroliquid! | ||
A common platform for the Pirate Parties to discuss and decide through direct democracy about the european policy and make a common strategy, for the european union and pan-european countries. | A common platform for the Pirate Parties to discuss and decide through direct democracy about the european policy and make a common strategy, for the european union and pan-european countries. | ||
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- | ===== Why ===== | + | === Why === |
We believe that the key of the success of the Pirate Party is not only the cool word " | We believe that the key of the success of the Pirate Party is not only the cool word " | ||
- | == LiquidFeedback == | + | === Where === |
- | Euroliquid guidelines are not necessary | + | ^ Permanent Assembly |
+ | ^ Location | ||
+ | |||
+ | === LiquidFeedback | ||
+ | Euroliquid guidelines are not necessarily | ||
LiquidFeedback at the moment is the most complete tool we can dispose and fits our needings. If in the future will arrive a better one we can adopt it. | LiquidFeedback at the moment is the most complete tool we can dispose and fits our needings. If in the future will arrive a better one we can adopt it. | ||
- | ====== Euroliquid | + | ==== Organization ==== |
- | == Focal points: == | + | === Focal points: |
- Allow to pirates to interact directly | - Allow to pirates to interact directly | ||
- Balance the representative capacity of bigger parties giving voice to the smaller ones. | - Balance the representative capacity of bigger parties giving voice to the smaller ones. | ||
- | == Principles: == | + | ==== Principles: |
- Inclusivity | - Inclusivity | ||
- partecipated democracy | - partecipated democracy | ||
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- Incorruptible by design | - Incorruptible by design | ||
+ | === Debate === | ||
+ | The two chamber model that follows below has been developed to work around the weight assignment to each country /party individuals . | ||
+ | We can debate this better in the bootstrap euroliquid, however, as any other issue of this model. | ||
- | ===== Structure | + | ==== Structure ==== |
Most important for an healthy structure is the capacity to balance the legitimate representativeness of bigger parties and at the same time to give a voice to the smaller ones. | Most important for an healthy structure is the capacity to balance the legitimate representativeness of bigger parties and at the same time to give a voice to the smaller ones. | ||
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- | Euroliquid has two main chambers: | + | According to Robotica' |
Chamber of Representers: | Chamber of Representers: | ||
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- | ===== Member Weights | + | ==== Member Weights ==== |
Member weights is the most delicate argument of PP-EU model. | Member weights is the most delicate argument of PP-EU model. | ||
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the best way to assign weights is according to the **Square root of voters**. | the best way to assign weights is according to the **Square root of voters**. | ||
- | == Formula == | + | == Formula == |
{{: | {{: | ||
- | == Reasons == | + | == Reasons == |
* It's easy! Only one parameter. | * It's easy! Only one parameter. | ||
* No exception, no complicated rules to remember, easy to understand it. | * No exception, no complicated rules to remember, easy to understand it. | ||
* Reach the goal: balance representativeness of bigger members and give a voice to the smaller ones. | * Reach the goal: balance representativeness of bigger members and give a voice to the smaller ones. | ||
- | * Alredy used for seats distribution of European Parliament ([[euroliquid: | + | * Alredy used for seats distribution of European Parliament ([[euroliquid: |
* Has strong [[euroliquid: | * Has strong [[euroliquid: | ||
\\ | \\ | ||
- | == Confederations == | + | == Confederations == |
What happens when 2 or more regional Pirate Parties of the __same country__ | What happens when 2 or more regional Pirate Parties of the __same country__ | ||
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\\ | \\ | ||
- | ===== Subscription and Certification | + | ==== Subscription and Certification ==== |
Euroliquid platform has to be as much reliable as possible on representativeness of the Pirates. | Euroliquid platform has to be as much reliable as possible on representativeness of the Pirates. | ||
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Representers will use the tokens to enter in Euroliquid with the " | Representers will use the tokens to enter in Euroliquid with the " | ||
- | Representers are public officials, cannot be anonymous and have to publish their presonal data (Name, Surname, PP-XX, City, E-Mail and photo). Very welcome PGP ID and finger print. | + | Representers are public officials, cannot be anonymous and have to publish their presonal data (Name, Surname, PP-XX, City, E-Mail and photo). Very welcome PGP finger print. |
- | == Chamber of Pirate | + | == Chamber of Pirates |
Each Pirate can partecipate in Euroliquid platform. The only requirement is to be associate to a Pirate Party Member. | Each Pirate can partecipate in Euroliquid platform. The only requirement is to be associate to a Pirate Party Member. | ||
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Almost anonymous means that the representers have the autority to ask informations about any pirate to their secretariat to verify if it is real. | Almost anonymous means that the representers have the autority to ask informations about any pirate to their secretariat to verify if it is real. | ||
- | + | ==== Chamber of Representers Units ==== | |
- | (continue) | + | LiquidFeedback can be organized in directory tree to allow selective partecipation voting to the core EU members, to European envolved menbers till the observers depending on the scope of the votation. |
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+ | == Units == | ||
+ | * Members | ||
+ | * EU Members | ||
+ | * EFTA Members | ||
+ | * Acceding EU Members | ||
+ | * Observers | ||
+ | * Observers (non Europe) | ||
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+ | ==== Chamber of Pirates Units ==== | ||
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+ | The chamber of pirates allows to any individual pirate to propose and debeate inside each country /party unit about any issue regarding PP-EU: | ||
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+ | The results of those issues must be proposed by their representers to the Chamber of Representers in order to be ratified according to the weights of each party member. | ||
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+ | == Units == | ||
+ | * EU Pirates | ||
+ | * Germany | ||
+ | * France | ||
+ | * United Kingdom | ||
+ | * Italy | ||
+ | * Spain | ||
+ | * Catalunya | ||
+ | * Poland | ||
+ | * Romania | ||
+ | * Netherlands | ||
+ | * Belgium | ||
+ | * Czech Republic | ||
+ | * Greece | ||
+ | * Hungary | ||
+ | * Portugal | ||
+ | * Sweden | ||
+ | * Austria | ||
+ | * Bulgaria | ||
+ | * Finland | ||
+ | * Denmark | ||
+ | * Slovakia | ||
+ | * Ireland | ||
+ | * Lithuania | ||
+ | * Latvia | ||
+ | * Slovenia | ||
+ | * Cyprus | ||
+ | * Estonia | ||
+ | * Luxembourg | ||
+ | * Malta | ||
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+ | * EFTA Pirates | ||
+ | * Iceland | ||
+ | * Liechtenstein | ||
+ | * Norway | ||
+ | * Switzerland | ||
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+ | * Acceding EU Pirates | ||
+ | * Croatia | ||
+ | * ... | ||
+ | |||
+ | * Candidates for EU Pirates | ||
+ | * ... | ||
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+ | * Other European Pirates | ||
+ | * ... | ||
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+ | * Worldwide Pirates | ||
+ | * ... | ||
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+ | ===== Policy Poll ===== | ||
+ | by Nino Cadorso | ||
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+ | Just to make it clearer, there is single spreadsheet with several sheets. | ||
+ | Right now there are these sheets: | ||
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+ | * [[https:// | ||
+ | * [[https:// | ||
+ | * [[https:// | ||
+ | * [[https:// | ||
+ | * [[https:// | ||
+ | * [[https:// | ||
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+ | Here is a template that you can copy to poll for new specific policies that really need their own rules and don't fall under the generic proceedings (Standard, Fast or Extensive), or for even more generic proceedings. | ||
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+ | * [[https:// | ||
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+ | ---- | ||
+ | (to be continued) |
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