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euroliquid [2012/08/17 12:03] lynxeuroliquid [2012/08/31 18:39] – [Member Weights] robotica
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 We have not taken any design decisions as yet (we aren't even entitled to). We have not taken any design decisions as yet (we aren't even entitled to).
  
-The Italian PP has developed a Bootstrap Proposal as provided below which allows to use it to shape its own future configuration from inside. This plan has been approved by the Permanent General Assembly of the PP-IT, which is implemented in a Liquid Feedback instance.+The Italian PP has developed a Bootstrap Proposal as provided below which allows to use it to shape its own future configuration from inside. This plan has been approved by the Permanent General Assembly of the PP-IT, which is itself implemented in a Liquid Feedback instance.
  
-A survey in the German national LQFB instance has produced large support for the development and deployment of a [[https://lqfb.piratenpartei.de/lf/initiative/show/3965.html euroliquid]].+A survey in the German national LQFB has produced [[https://lqfb.piratenpartei.de/lf/initiative/show/3965.html|large support for the development and deployment of a euroliquid]].
  
 ===== Bootstrap Proposal ===== ===== Bootstrap Proposal =====
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 To achieve that we will have to wait for newer versions of the software that allow for weighted voting of participants. Until then we do the weighting by a counted number of participants. We can slowly grow the system into the hundreds of Pirate participants per country and still be weighted by a fair formula that respects big and small countries - and we can decide together when and how to do this. The speed at which we move there depends on the priority all the parties give to it and provide for accreditations of further participants. To achieve that we will have to wait for newer versions of the software that allow for weighted voting of participants. Until then we do the weighting by a counted number of participants. We can slowly grow the system into the hundreds of Pirate participants per country and still be weighted by a fair formula that respects big and small countries - and we can decide together when and how to do this. The speed at which we move there depends on the priority all the parties give to it and provide for accreditations of further participants.
  
-==== Further Steps ====+== Possible Further Steps ==
  
-== Preamble ==+The lynX' vision of things is documented on http://my.pages.de/euroliquid whereas Robotica's approach follows: 
 + 
 + 
 +===== Euroliquid Model ===== 
 + 
 +==== Preamble ====
 This is the summary of many brainstormings held in physical and virtual meetings. This is a "model in progress". :) This is the summary of many brainstormings held in physical and virtual meetings. This is a "model in progress". :)
  
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 or just join!  :) or just join!  :)
    
-===== Who =====+=== Who ===
 Mainly are involved the Pirate Parties of Europe and particularly EU;  Mainly are involved the Pirate Parties of Europe and particularly EU; 
  
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 all the pirates interested in this project. all the pirates interested in this project.
  
-===== When =====+=== When ===
 The project just began, we must be ready for EU elections of 2014. The project just began, we must be ready for EU elections of 2014.
  
 The Euroliquid group is open to anyone who is interested in contributing to the foundation of a Pirate Party at european level. The Euroliquid group is open to anyone who is interested in contributing to the foundation of a Pirate Party at european level.
  
-===== What =====+=== What ===
 Euroliquid! Euroliquid!
  
 A common platform for the Pirate Parties to discuss and decide through direct democracy about the european policy and make a common strategy, for the european union and pan-european countries. A common platform for the Pirate Parties to discuss and decide through direct democracy about the european policy and make a common strategy, for the european union and pan-european countries.
    
-===== Why =====+=== Why ===
 We believe that the key of the success of the Pirate Party is not only the cool word "Pirate", but the open philosophy and the partecipating decisional process.  We believe that the key of the success of the Pirate Party is not only the cool word "Pirate", but the open philosophy and the partecipating decisional process. 
  
-===== Where =====+=== Where ===
 ^ Permanent Assembly  | 24/7 | ^ Permanent Assembly  | 24/7 |
-^ Location        | http://euroliquid.partitopirata.net(work in progress) |+^ Location        | http://lqfb.euroliquid.org/ |
  
-== LiquidFeedback ==+=== LiquidFeedback ===
 Euroliquid guidelines are not necessarily based on LiquidFeedback. Euroliquid guidelines are not necessarily based on LiquidFeedback.
 LiquidFeedback at the moment is the most complete tool we can dispose and fits our needings. If in the future will arrive a better one we can adopt it. LiquidFeedback at the moment is the most complete tool we can dispose and fits our needings. If in the future will arrive a better one we can adopt it.
  
-====== Euroliquid Organization ======+==== Organization ====
  
  
-== Focal points: ==+=== Focal points: ===
   - Allow to pirates to interact directly   - Allow to pirates to interact directly
   - Balance the representative capacity of bigger parties giving voice to the smaller ones.   - Balance the representative capacity of bigger parties giving voice to the smaller ones.
  
  
-== Principles: ==+==== Principles: ====
   - Inclusivity   - Inclusivity
   - partecipated democracy   - partecipated democracy
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   - Incorruptible by design   - Incorruptible by design
  
-===== Debate =====+=== Debate ===
  
-The two chamber model that follows below has been developed by Robotica. It is being discussed as the legitimacy of a first-come-first-served chamber isn't very clear. We can debate this better in the bootstrap euroliquid, however, as it models the probabilities of acceptance.+The two chamber model that follows below has been developed to work around the weight assignment to each country /party individuals  
 +We can debate this better in the bootstrap euroliquid, however, as any other issue of this model.
  
-===== Structure =====+==== Structure ====
  
 Most important for an healthy structure is the capacity to balance the legitimate representativeness of bigger parties and at the same time to give a voice to the smaller ones. Most important for an healthy structure is the capacity to balance the legitimate representativeness of bigger parties and at the same time to give a voice to the smaller ones.
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-===== Member Weights =====+==== Member Weights ====
  
 Member weights is the most delicate argument of PP-EU model. Member weights is the most delicate argument of PP-EU model.
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 the best way to assign weights is according to the **Square root of voters**.  the best way to assign weights is according to the **Square root of voters**. 
  
-== Formula == +== Formula ==
 {{:squareroot.gif?100|}} **X** is the number of voters of each Country / Party. {{:squareroot.gif?100|}} **X** is the number of voters of each Country / Party.
  
-== Reasons == +== Reasons ==
   * It's easy! Only one parameter.   * It's easy! Only one parameter.
   * No exception, no complicated rules to remember, easy to understand it.   * No exception, no complicated rules to remember, easy to understand it.
   * Reach the goal: balance representativeness of bigger members and give a voice to the smaller ones.   * Reach the goal: balance representativeness of bigger members and give a voice to the smaller ones.
-  * Alredy used for seats distribution of European Parliament ([[euroliquid:EU_seats|take a look here]])+  * Alredy used for seats distribution of European Parliament ([[euroliquid:EU_seats|degressive proportionality]])
   * Has strong [[euroliquid:basis|theoretical basis]]   * Has strong [[euroliquid:basis|theoretical basis]]
  
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-== Confederations == +== Confederations ==
 What happens when 2 or more regional Pirate Parties of the __same country__  confederates and concur toghether to european elections? What happens when 2 or more regional Pirate Parties of the __same country__  confederates and concur toghether to european elections?
  
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-===== Subscription and Certification =====+==== Subscription and Certification ====
  
 Euroliquid platform has to be as much reliable as possible on representativeness of the Pirates. Euroliquid platform has to be as much reliable as possible on representativeness of the Pirates.
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 Almost anonymous means that the representers have the autority to ask informations about any pirate to their secretariat to verify if it is real. Almost anonymous means that the representers have the autority to ask informations about any pirate to their secretariat to verify if it is real.
  
 +==== Chamber of Representers Units ====
  
 +LiquidFeedback can be organized in directory tree to allow selective partecipation voting to the core EU members, to European envolved menbers till the observers depending on the scope of the votation.
 +
 +== Units ==
 +  * Members
 +    * EU Members
 +    * EFTA Members
 +    * Acceding EU Members
 +  * Observers (Europe)
 +  * Observers (non Europe)
 +
 +==== Chamber of Pirates Units ====
 +
 +The chamber of pirates allows to any individual pirate to propose and debeate about any issue regarding PP-EU (about the program, the rules and any kind of decision) inside each country /party unit.
 +The results of those issues are to be proposed by their representers to the chamber of representers in order to be ratified according to the weights of each party member.
 +
 +
 +== Units ==
 +  * EU Pirates
 +    * Germany  
 +    * France 
 +    * United Kingdom 
 +    * Italy 
 +    * Spain 
 +    * Catalunya 
 +    * Poland
 +    * Romania  
 +    * Netherlands 
 +    * Belgium 
 +    * Czech Republic 
 +    * Greece 
 +    * Hungary 
 +    * Portugal 
 +    * Sweden 
 +    * Austria 
 +    * Bulgaria 
 +    * Finland
 +    * Denmark
 +    * Slovakia
 +    * Ireland
 +    * Lithuania
 +    * Latvia 
 +    * Slovenia  
 +    * Cyprus 
 +    * Estonia  
 +    * Luxembourg 
 +    * Malta 
 +
 +  * EFTA Pirates
 +    * Iceland 
 +    * Liechtenstein
 +    * Norway
 +    * Switzerland
 +
 +  * Acceding EU Pirates
 +    * Croatia 
 +    * ...
 +
 +  * Candidates for EU Pirates
 +    * ...
 +
 +  * Other European Pirates
 +    *  ...
 +
 +  * Worldwide Pirates
 +    *  ...
 +
 +
 +----
 (to be continued) (to be continued)
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