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8th_council_meeting_2021_start:minutes [2021/06/05 15:41] – created bastian | 8th_council_meeting_2021_start:minutes [2021/06/06 06:40] – alessandro | ||
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+ | Recording: https:// | ||
- | List of International delegates.:\\ | + | List of International delegates: |
Wiki \\ | Wiki \\ | ||
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Orga-team is introduced by Mikuláš, none objected.\\ | Orga-team is introduced by Mikuláš, none objected.\\ | ||
- | Agenda will be now explained by Mikuláš, asking now to PP-AT Desertold | + | Agenda will be now explained by Mikuláš, asking now to PP-AT Desertrold |
- | Desertold | + | Desertrold |
- | Mikuláš is intepreting | + | Mikuláš is interpreting |
Mikuláš would like to Council to vote on this.\\ | Mikuláš would like to Council to vote on this.\\ | ||
- | Desertold | + | Desertrold |
- | Mikuláš | + | Mikuláš |
- | Katla and Sven are arguing, supporting the PPEU board intepretation.\\ | + | Katla and Sven are arguing, supporting the PPEU board interpretation.\\ |
- | Desertold | + | Desertrold |
Matti is pointing out that candidates should be nominated a month prior to the election day.\\ | Matti is pointing out that candidates should be nominated a month prior to the election day.\\ | ||
Mikuláš would like to propose a vote to have this point on the agenda or not.\\ | Mikuláš would like to propose a vote to have this point on the agenda or not.\\ | ||
- | About voting system, | + | About voting system, |
- | Bastian is asking if Assemblea is opend to everyone or not.\\ | + | Bastian is asking if Assemblea is opened |
Dario is explaining the casting vote system and the whole process.\\ | Dario is explaining the casting vote system and the whole process.\\ | ||
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In case of results will be wrong, we could modify single votes on demand from the minute (not modifying it from Assemblea).\\ | In case of results will be wrong, we could modify single votes on demand from the minute (not modifying it from Assemblea).\\ | ||
- | Corrections should be asked immediatly | + | Corrections should be asked immediately |
Before officially vote, we need to set up votes for this council.\\ | Before officially vote, we need to set up votes for this council.\\ | ||
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Results: | Results: | ||
- | PP-IS abstain 3.0 | + | PP-IS abstain 3.0\\ |
- | PP-CAT abstain 1.0 | + | PP-CAT abstain 1.0\\ |
- | PP-CZ yes 6.0 | + | PP-CZ yes 6.0\\ |
- | MEPs yes 2.0 | + | MEPs yes 2.0\\ |
- | PP-LU yes 2.0 | + | PP-LU yes 2.0\\ |
- | PP-DE abstain 2.0 | + | PP-DE abstain 2.0\\ |
- | PP-SE no 1.0 | + | PP-SE no 1.0\\ |
- | YPE yes 2.0 | + | YPE yes 2.0\\ |
- | PP-AT no 1.0 | + | PP-AT no 1.0\\ |
Yes: 12\\ | Yes: 12\\ | ||
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Treasurer in charge made a budget proposal for 2021\\ | Treasurer in charge made a budget proposal for 2021\\ | ||
- | Sven is pointing out that if we want to be a recogonised | + | Sven is pointing out that if we want to be a recognised |
Bastian is answering that for the future we need to change our budgeting system.\\ | Bastian is answering that for the future we need to change our budgeting system.\\ | ||
Budget 2021: https:// | Budget 2021: https:// | ||
Mikuláš is informing the Council that PP-FR will formally not participate to this meeting because of the presence of someone in the council.\\ | Mikuláš is informing the Council that PP-FR will formally not participate to this meeting because of the presence of someone in the council.\\ | ||
- | Nobody is raising | + | Nobody is raising |
**2. Any other motions from the members**\\ | **2. Any other motions from the members**\\ | ||
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Motion 1: The Council encourages the Board to proceed to initiate admission of new observer members by letting Council members vote through an appropriate and secure voting mechanism when needed. (PP-LU/Sven Clement)\\ | Motion 1: The Council encourages the Board to proceed to initiate admission of new observer members by letting Council members vote through an appropriate and secure voting mechanism when needed. (PP-LU/Sven Clement)\\ | ||
- | Motion 2: The Council invites the Board to create a taskforce | + | Motion 2: The Council invites the Board to create a task force to find and approach potential observer members in order to fulfil |
Mikuláš agreed with Sven that we should try to register it anyway and then wait for the result and accordingly.\\ | Mikuláš agreed with Sven that we should try to register it anyway and then wait for the result and accordingly.\\ | ||
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Motion 2\\ | Motion 2\\ | ||
- | The Council invites the Board to create a taskforce | + | The Council invites the Board to create a task force to find and approach potential observer members in order to fulfil |
Motion 1\\ | Motion 1\\ | ||
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**BREAK TIME NOW until 13:00 (5 mins)**\\ | **BREAK TIME NOW until 13:00 (5 mins)**\\ | ||
- | Now Katla is chairing.\\ | + | Now Katla is chairing.\\ |
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+ | **3. Election of vacation position of CoCC**\\ | ||
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Mikuláš would like to reopen the nominations from CoCC elections.\\ | Mikuláš would like to reopen the nominations from CoCC elections.\\ | ||
Due to lack of nominations, | Due to lack of nominations, | ||
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+ | **4. Conference on the future of Europe**\\ | ||
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Mikuláš is speaking now about Conference on the future of Europe, https:// | Mikuláš is speaking now about Conference on the future of Europe, https:// | ||
There was an online tool created, serving to collect proposal from EU citizens.\\ | There was an online tool created, serving to collect proposal from EU citizens.\\ | ||
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Mikuláš would like to propose it here: https:// | Mikuláš would like to propose it here: https:// | ||
- | Desertold | + | Desertrold |
Katla would like to follow the current topic and postpone vote on budget later.\\ | Katla would like to follow the current topic and postpone vote on budget later.\\ | ||
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So Katla is asking now Bastian if the midterm budget is just a document or we need to vote it.\\ | So Katla is asking now Bastian if the midterm budget is just a document or we need to vote it.\\ | ||
The chair added that she " | The chair added that she " | ||
- | Alessandro is poiting | + | Alessandro is pointing |
Motion: | Motion: | ||
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Meeting reopened at 14:32, chaired by Katla.\\ | Meeting reopened at 14:32, chaired by Katla.\\ | ||
- | Matti would like to propose an amendement\\ | + | Matti would like to propose an amendment\\ |
"That the final vote on the PIRATE PRIORITIES FOR THE CONFERENCE ON THE FUTURE OF EUROPE is tabled and voted on at a later point" | "That the final vote on the PIRATE PRIORITIES FOR THE CONFERENCE ON THE FUTURE OF EUROPE is tabled and voted on at a later point" | ||
About voting on the document, we can agree on having a draft on vote here.\\ | About voting on the document, we can agree on having a draft on vote here.\\ | ||
- | Sven is asking maybe to move the topic on a transnational list instead of a consituency. PP-LU is in favour of qualifing | + | Sven is asking maybe to move the topic on a transnational list instead of a constituency. PP-LU is in favour of qualifying |
Matti doesn' | Matti doesn' | ||
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It's not necessary now to vote on the text today as it is. PPSE and all other members that would like to amend the final draft to be voted.\\ | It's not necessary now to vote on the text today as it is. PPSE and all other members that would like to amend the final draft to be voted.\\ | ||
- | PeterTheOne (ppAT) proposes that this will be not left only to the MEP´s ... there should be also consedered | + | PeterTheOne (ppAT) proposes that this will be not left only to the MEP´s ... there should be also considered |
The Council can give it to the board.\\ | The Council can give it to the board.\\ | ||
- | Mab is considering that only allowed delegates can propose | + | Mab is considering that only allowed delegates can propose |
Motion\\ | Motion\\ | ||
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Alessandro reports on financial regulation. \\ | Alessandro reports on financial regulation. \\ | ||
- | First: | + | First: |
Statutes are very clear how the members are obligated to contribute\\ | Statutes are very clear how the members are obligated to contribute\\ | ||
- | Alessandro points out that the budget | + | Alessandro points out that the budget |
Alessandro also is insisting that donation and budget are two different things | Alessandro also is insisting that donation and budget are two different things | ||
- | actual situation says (Statutes) that if member not paying their membership fees they have no right to vote. So Alessandro | + | actual situation says (Statutes) that if member not paying their membership fees they have no right to vote. |
+ | So Alessandro | ||
PP-FR is against accepting donation from companies\\ | PP-FR is against accepting donation from companies\\ | ||
- | more Info can be found here: https:// | + | More Info can be found here: https:// |
Bastian (PP-DE) points out: was is written down in the pad mainly already is worded in the statutes. \\ | Bastian (PP-DE) points out: was is written down in the pad mainly already is worded in the statutes. \\ | ||
Also: Budget is a " | Also: Budget is a " | ||
Regarding the donation issue: we could fix the donation issue but as we are publishing anyway all donations he do not know if this necessary.\\ | Regarding the donation issue: we could fix the donation issue but as we are publishing anyway all donations he do not know if this necessary.\\ | ||
- | Regarding Long Term Budget: This makes sence if we are a big party... but at the moment ?\\ | + | Regarding Long Term Budget: This makes sense if we were a big party... but at the moment? |
- | Mikulas | + | Mikuláš |
Exile proposes: The council approves this draft text to be foundation for further work .. would this be an agreement ?\\ | Exile proposes: The council approves this draft text to be foundation for further work .. would this be an agreement ?\\ | ||
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There will be vote on the text on the next council probably in November, no vote today. The text presented today should be foundation for the further work.\\ | There will be vote on the text on the next council probably in November, no vote today. The text presented today should be foundation for the further work.\\ | ||
- | Bastian has a procedural motion: to adopt immediatly | + | Bastian has a procedural motion: to adopt immediately |
Mab reminds the CM that only PPEU official delegates can issue procedural motion.\\ | Mab reminds the CM that only PPEU official delegates can issue procedural motion.\\ | ||
Katla is wondering if anyone is taking care of this procedural motion.\\ | Katla is wondering if anyone is taking care of this procedural motion.\\ | ||
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**6. PPI relations**\\ | **6. PPI relations**\\ | ||
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Keith (Pirates Israel - and PPI Board member) is now speaking. Political restrictions are globally quiet often, Europa is in a rather comfortable situation but this political freedom is important, do not forget about it.\\ | Keith (Pirates Israel - and PPI Board member) is now speaking. Political restrictions are globally quiet often, Europa is in a rather comfortable situation but this political freedom is important, do not forget about it.\\ | ||
It's really important to stand united and decentralised our organisation globally. First layer solution is PPI as now, second level solution could be a real global organisation of individuals.\\ | It's really important to stand united and decentralised our organisation globally. First layer solution is PPI as now, second level solution could be a real global organisation of individuals.\\ | ||
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Desertrold is remembering that only Countries can be Ordinary member, but PPEU can be Observer Member.\\ | Desertrold is remembering that only Countries can be Ordinary member, but PPEU can be Observer Member.\\ | ||
- | Gregory (PPI Vice Chair & PP-DE) is clearifying | + | Gregory (PPI Vice Chair & PP-DE) is clarifying |
- | It would be easier in many ways if PPEU would be also a member of PPI, so if it has to table by PPEU member or the board is not confident | + | It would be easier in many ways if PPEU would be also a member of PPI, so if it has to table by PPEU member or the board is not confident |
Deadline for application is tonight (for next PPI GA)\\ | Deadline for application is tonight (for next PPI GA)\\ | ||
Mikuláš (PP-CZ) is supporting that there will be a motion today about this.\\ | Mikuláš (PP-CZ) is supporting that there will be a motion today about this.\\ | ||
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Desertrold is tabling a motion.\\ | Desertrold is tabling a motion.\\ | ||
- | Peter is considering that if PPEU becomes member of PPI, obbligations | + | Peter is considering that if PPEU becomes member of PPI, obligations |
Desertrold writes down that\\ | Desertrold writes down that\\ | ||
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**15 mins break now until 16:20 CEST**\\ | **15 mins break now until 16:20 CEST**\\ | ||
- | Mikuláš presents Greens/EFA Relationship with us in the European | + | Mikuláš presents Greens/EFA Relationship with us in the European |
Statues of EFA/Greens are saying.. members (and creators) are Greens and European Free Alliance.\\ | Statues of EFA/Greens are saying.. members (and creators) are Greens and European Free Alliance.\\ | ||
Pirates nether formed part as party ... pirates are only included on individual basis.\\ | Pirates nether formed part as party ... pirates are only included on individual basis.\\ | ||
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Mikuláš: We should register our logo to be officially ours - in a legal way.\\ | Mikuláš: We should register our logo to be officially ours - in a legal way.\\ | ||
Bastian: Offer for 190 Euros.... he had a look to this already... the proposal from the media group would be the next step... afterwords European Pirates have to agree \\ | Bastian: Offer for 190 Euros.... he had a look to this already... the proposal from the media group would be the next step... afterwords European Pirates have to agree \\ | ||
- | Desertrold: Question.... we are againts | + | Desertrold: Question.... we are against |
Mikuláš: would rather prefer to speak about Trademark ... and not about copyright legislation\\ | Mikuláš: would rather prefer to speak about Trademark ... and not about copyright legislation\\ | ||
Bastian is insisting: Registering is necessary... we need to defend us from Abuse\\ | Bastian is insisting: Registering is necessary... we need to defend us from Abuse\\ | ||
Mikuláš asking: we agreed a budget this morning... there is included the registration cost .... so, why we are talking about a mandate to the media group for elaborating a proposal | Mikuláš asking: we agreed a budget this morning... there is included the registration cost .... so, why we are talking about a mandate to the media group for elaborating a proposal | ||
Michael is asking about the registration scope \\ | Michael is asking about the registration scope \\ | ||
- | Mikuláš doesn''t know technical details: it has to be issue to the lawyer\\ | + | Mikuláš doesn' |
Matti is a bit confused: which logo will be registered? And for what exact reason? | Matti is a bit confused: which logo will be registered? And for what exact reason? | ||
Mikuláš is telling that this is the logo https:// | Mikuláš is telling that this is the logo https:// | ||
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Shortly after its election, the CoCC opened its Wiki page, reachable at the following address: | Shortly after its election, the CoCC opened its Wiki page, reachable at the following address: | ||
https:// | https:// | ||
- | The CoCC began to work on its Rules of Procedure to provide a frame and some guidelines for people who wanted to submit a case. At the same time, we realized | + | The CoCC began to work on its Rules of Procedure to provide a frame and some guidelines for people who wanted to submit a case. At the same time, we realised |
The results were approved and published on the wiki on May, 31st: | The results were approved and published on the wiki on May, 31st: | ||
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