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 ====== Euroliquid ====== ====== Euroliquid ======
-one mind, one heart, one soul.  –Robotica+one mind, one heart, one soul.
  
 ===== the working group ===== ===== the working group =====
  
-The meeting on 2012-05-17 initiated the planning and forming of a European Liquid Feedback instance to develop a //best common denominator// of Pirate policies rather than the //least common denominator// which is inherent to the current representative approach.+There is since 2012 the planning and forming of a European Liquid Feedback instance to develop a //best common denominator// of Pirate policies rather than the //least common denominator// which is inherent to the current representative approach.
  
 If you are interested in participating in this working group here are more details:  If you are interested in participating in this working group here are more details: 
  
-^ Wiki            | http://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=euroliquid | +^ Wiki            | https://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=euroliquid | 
-^ Mailing list    | [[pp-eu.euroliquid@lists.pp-international.net|pp-eu.euroliquid@lists.pp-international.net]] | +^ Mailing list    | https://lists.european-pirateparty.eu/wws/info/pp-eu.euroliquid | 
-^ ML registration | http://lists.pp-international.net/listinfo/pp-eu.euroliquid |+^ ML registration | https://pp-eu.euroliquid@lists.european-pirateparty.eu |
  
 ===== current state ===== ===== current state =====
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 The Italian PP has developed a Bootstrap Proposal as provided below which allows to use it to shape its own future configuration from inside. This plan has been approved by the Permanent General Assembly of the PP-IT, which is itself implemented in a Liquid Feedback instance. The Italian PP has developed a Bootstrap Proposal as provided below which allows to use it to shape its own future configuration from inside. This plan has been approved by the Permanent General Assembly of the PP-IT, which is itself implemented in a Liquid Feedback instance.
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-A survey in the German national LQFB has produced [[https://lqfb.piratenpartei.de/lf/initiative/show/3965.html|large support for the development and deployment of a euroliquid]]. 
  
 ===== Bootstrap Proposal ===== ===== Bootstrap Proposal =====
  
 Long term set-up principles: Long term set-up principles:
-  * For transparency, the euroliquid is publicly viewable  including  who voted how. +  * For transparency, the Euroliquid is publicly viewable  including  who voted how. 
-  *  Participants are politicians thus bound to transparency. Their realnames and affiliations are displayed in their public profiles. Further data is optional.+  * Participants are politicians thus bound to transparency. Their real names and affiliations are displayed in their public profiles. Further data is optional.
   *  The database shall be downloadable in its entirety so anyone can set up a mirror of it.   *  The database shall be downloadable in its entirety so anyone can set up a mirror of it.
   *  Should the European Pirates be doubtful of the Italian administration, they can decide to migrate the platform elsewhere without depending on Italian consent.   *  Should the European Pirates be doubtful of the Italian administration, they can decide to migrate the platform elsewhere without depending on Italian consent.
  
-The euroliquid bootstrap is a sort of "Constituate Assembly" for the actual euroliquid within a liquid feedback installation itself. It is designed to debate on how it should operate, starting from the current legal status quo. Strategy for bootstrapping euroliquid:+The Euroliquid bootstrap is a sort of "Constituate Assembly" for the actual Eeuroliquid within a liquid feedback installation itself. It is designed to debate on how it should operate, starting from the current legal status quo. Strategy for bootstrapping Euroliquid:
  
-  * We only create one area called "euroliquid administration." +  * We only create one area called "Euroliquid administration." 
-  * We only admit one delegate per partipating EU country to start with, so you have to coordinate among each other what your vote should be. You can use your own liquid feedback to find your party's bootstrap opinions... (hint, hint ;))+  * We only admit one delegate per participating EU country to start with, so you have to coordinate among each other what your vote should be. You can use your own liquid feedback to find your party's bootstrap opinions... (hint, hint ;))
   * We only create one voting-policy which is 100%-majority also known as consensus.   * We only create one voting-policy which is 100%-majority also known as consensus.
   * To even start the debate, the quorum is at 50/100 - so the majority of participants needs to agree that something needs to be debated.   * To even start the debate, the quorum is at 50/100 - so the majority of participants needs to agree that something needs to be debated.
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   * How to handle participation of non-EU members.   * How to handle participation of non-EU members.
   * How to handle multi-ethnic/politically split countries.   * How to handle multi-ethnic/politically split countries.
-  * Certification and administration procedures for slowly growing the number of participants: What does a Pirate Party have to do to submit people to the euroliquid?+  * Certification and administration procedures for slowly growing the number of participants: What does a Pirate Party have to do to submit people to the Euroliquid?
   * Suitable "no protection" declaration of all data being available/public.   * Suitable "no protection" declaration of all data being available/public.
-  * Develop the policies for long-term euroliquid discussion areas: debate on statute amendments and programmatic themes.+  * Develop the policies for long-term Euroliquid discussion areas: debate on statute amendments and programmatic themes.
   * Consider long haul policies for longer debates and majority vote options.   * Consider long haul policies for longer debates and majority vote options.
  
-The euroliquid bootstrap process may appear a bit strange at first, but the short term goal is to have several delegates per country, the mid term goal is to have hundreds of Pirates (and large-majority-based decision making) and the long term goal is to one day be able to host all Pirates that are willing to take on the responsability of being a European politician.+The Euroliquid bootstrap process may appear a bit strange at first, but the short term goal is to have several delegates per country, the mid term goal is to have hundreds of Pirates (and large-majority-based decision making) and the long term goal is to one day be able to host all Pirates that are willing to take on the responsability of being a European politician.
  
 To achieve that we will have to wait for newer versions of the software that allow for weighted voting of participants. Until then we do the weighting by a counted number of participants. We can slowly grow the system into the hundreds of Pirate participants per country and still be weighted by a fair formula that respects big and small countries - and we can decide together when and how to do this. The speed at which we move there depends on the priority all the parties give to it and provide for accreditations of further participants. To achieve that we will have to wait for newer versions of the software that allow for weighted voting of participants. Until then we do the weighting by a counted number of participants. We can slowly grow the system into the hundreds of Pirate participants per country and still be weighted by a fair formula that respects big and small countries - and we can decide together when and how to do this. The speed at which we move there depends on the priority all the parties give to it and provide for accreditations of further participants.
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 the invitation is to all the world wide Pirate Parties because in the Euroliquid platform the non-eu countries have a voice in EU foreign policy. the invitation is to all the world wide Pirate Parties because in the Euroliquid platform the non-eu countries have a voice in EU foreign policy.
  
-The partecipation is open, in Euroliquid are welcome +The partecipation is open, in Euroliquid are welcome all the pirates interested in this project.
-all the pirates interested in this project.+
  
 === When === === When ===
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 ===== Policy Poll ===== ===== Policy Poll =====
-by Nino Cadorso+by Nuno Cardoso
  
 Just to make it clearer, there is  single spreadsheet with several sheets. Just to make it clearer, there is  single spreadsheet with several sheets.
 Right now there are these sheets: Right now there are these sheets:
  
-[[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=10 | Default Policy for Standard Proceeding]] +  * [[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=10 | Default Policy for Standard Proceeding]] 
-Policy for Fast Proceeding +  * [[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=11 | Policy for Fast Proceeding]] 
-Policy for Extensive Proceeding +  * [[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=12 | Policy for Extensive Proceeding]] 
-Policy for Statute Amendments +  * [[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=13 | Policy for Statute Amendments]] 
-Policy for Member Acceptance +  * [[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=14 | Policy for Member Acceptance]] 
-Policy for Member Expulsion+  * [[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=15 | Policy for Member Expulsion]] 
 + 
 +Here is a template that you can copy to poll for new specific policies that really need their own rules and don't fall under the generic proceedings (Standard, Fast or Extensive), or for even more generic proceedings. 
 + 
 +  * [[https://docs.google.com/a/pp-international.net/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Ai9AFwhEPqTedGFXQkRYVVdYeGJuRWdvNXdNUi1GZnc#gid=3 | Template Policy for ...]]
  
-And a template that you can copy to poll for new specific policies that really need their own rules and don't fall under the generic proceedings (Standard, Fast or Extensive), or for even more generic proceedings. 
  
-Template Policy for ... 
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