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-Dear fellow pirates,+Dear fellow pirates.
  
-Below you can find the proposals for the common programme that our +I apologize for sending this bit latebut I figured that better late than never.
-programme working group has prepared. Since we haven't had any time to +
-hold discussion of the proposals among the party baseswe do not +
-know if all the proposals will be in the end supported by our members +
-during the ratification process (similarly as PP-DE). Although we hope +
-they will be.+
  
-We have few self-standing proposals that we think might be +In the Swedish pirate party board discussion on the German proposal for common EU programme the focus has not been so much about what we can add, but rather what we would need to remove to be able to support the document as a common Election Programme. As you know our political objectives are decided by the members at our online assemblies, and the board does not have a mandate to formulate new policyThat means that we are not able to support any texts that go beyond the scope set by the members of Piratpartiet.
-interesting to include in the common programme and then some specific +
-comments regarding the PP-DE draft (changesadditions and/or further +
-clarification/discussion needed)When not in the Manifesto, the +
-corresponding section of the PPDE draft has been specified.+
  
-Regarding proposals departing from the core values, we think it might +As the German proposal is quite ambitious and expands into lot of areas not commonly covered by pirate parties this means that we where forced to focus on what we would need to remove. I hope this in no regard is seen as us not being greatly appreciative of the work put down by our german colleagues.
-be interesting to put them forward anyway because, even if they end up +
-being unacceptable in the Common Programme for some parties, if we see +
-that they are shared by sufficiently large number of partieswe +
-could add another small section in our programmes of things shared by +
-a number of parties (an Onion Programme...   ).+
  
-Best regards,+As I will not be present at the conference in Athens I would appreciate if you could include our delegate Anton Nordenfur (anton.nordenfur@piratpartiet.se) in any replies sent to this email.
  
-Muriel Rovira Esteva +Below are the comments brought forward by the board of the Swedish Pirate Party. The parts that lack comments are in compliance with our policies and therefore supported by the Swedish Pirate Party.
-International Coordinator +
-Pirates de Catalunya+
  
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 +Comments to the German proposal:
  
-PROPOSAL 1: Removal of unjustified barriers [Citizen participation and 
-Open Government] 
  
-We PIRATES want a larger and more direct participation of the citizens +1.1 Preamble 
-in the policy debate and decision making process, both individually +The preamble needs to be rewritten in such a way that it does not portray the interests of the member states and European interests as inherently opposed to each other.
-and collectivelyWe therefore demand the removal of unjustified +
-barriers to the participation of new political parties that exist in +
-some EU Member States, such as the requirement of collecting a certain +
-number of signatures in order to stand for election.+
  
 +It should also change "The primary goal of all PIRATES will be to fix this and to build a solid democratic foundation for the European Union." as this is primarily done by the counsil, ie the member states, and not the European Parliament. It also puts that objective before all other pirate objectives, such as copyright reform and changing the patent system. And we are not convinced that such a priority would be in line with the will of our members. A possible sollution would be to use the phrase "A goal of all PIRATES....."
  
-PROPOSAL 2: Condemn and eradicate the apology of movements against +We would also need a clarification what "common European cultural space" and why that should be something created by the European parliament rather than bottom up from the people.
-Human Rights [Civil Rights]+
  
-We, the European Pirates, are against movements who don't respect +1.2 Democracy Add-on for Europe 
-Human Rights. We condemn any movement fueled by xenophobic, fascist or +The first part talks about a Convention in a very detailed way that contradicts the model that the Swedish Pirate party has decided to support. We would like to suggest that we change the text to something more abstract rather than giving a detailed sollution on the how.
-discriminatory ideas against any collective.+
  
 +The second part talks about citizens initiative, and that part does not fit with our policies as they are today and needs to be removed entirely.
  
-PROPOSAL 3: Ensure the possibility to all European citizens to vote +The third part talks about the distribution of power between the different institutions and here we are generally agreeing with the text but want the last sentence removed.
-and stand Europe-wide as candidates in all elections at any level +
-(local, regional, national, European, etc.)[Civil Rights]+
  
-We, the European Pirates, aim to reduce the democratic deficit by +1.3.2: Security Research and Monitoring Software 
-granting all mobile Europeans the right to vote not only in local and +First paragraph might need some minor adjustment to fit our policies, the following paragraphs needs to be removed entirely.
-European electionsbut also in regional and national elections in the +
-State where they live.+
  
 +1.3.3 European Data Protection Regulation With a High Level of Data Protection
 +paragraph 1 & 2 are great, 3 is unfortunately also great, but have no support in our policies, so we cannot back it at this point. 4 & 5 is fine.
  
-PROPOSAL 4: Financial transaction tax [PP-DE: Economic and Financial Policy]+1.Refugee Policy 
 + Remove the call to dismantle Frontex. The rest is in accordance with our policies
  
-We support the establishment of taxes to international financial +1.5.2 Setting Up of a Mandatory Lobby Register at All European Levels 
-transactions, one of the causes of international financial +remove entire paragraph
-instability, which generate huge amounts of speculative profits with +
-little or no contribution to public budgets.+
  
 +1.5.3 Tightening of the Rules on Transparency and Casual Earnings of MEPs
 +remove entire paragraph
  
-PROPOSAL 5: Eradicate tax havens [PP-DE: Economic and Financial Policy]+1.5.4 Introduction of Cooling-Off Periods for Top Politicians 
 +remove entire paragraph
  
-We request the EC and other relevant international organisations to +1.5.5 Whistleblower Protection Law in Public Administration and in the Private Sector 
-take action against tax havenswhich mainly harbour fortunes of +This is currently in line with a proposal at our GA that we believe will pass. So hopefully we will be able to support this. We will know in less than two weeksso we can keep it for now while we wait for the outcome of the votes of our GA.
-illegal, criminal and dubious origin.+
  
 +1.5.6 Transparency of Public Procurement
 +Firs sentence is great, rest needs to be rephrased and less detailed.
  
-PROPOSAL 6: Public, free, secular and universal education [Civil Rights]+1.7.2 Protect Net Neutrality EU-Wide 
 +Second paragraph would benefit from being adressed at a higher level of abstraction.
  
-We, the European Pirates, want to ensure that every European citizen +1.7.4  FreeLegally-Binding Digital Signatures and E-Mail Encryption for Everyone 
-has a proper education, based on Human Rights, far from ideological +Needs to be rephrased if we want to keep it. I would suggest that you get in touch with our MEP Amelia who is currently working on the EU legislation on this.
-and partisan fights, and aimed at ensuring critical thinking, +
-tolerance, cooperation, culture and tools for a proper personal +
-development.+
  
 +1.11, 1.12 & 1.13 agricultural policy, social policy and economic and financial policy
 +Remove everything on agricultural policy, social policy and economic and financial policy.
  
-PROPOSAL 7: Limit the salaries of top executives to N times higher +1.14.1.3 Privatisations only after a Referendum 
-than the lowest company's salary [PP-DE: Economic and Financial +remove paragraph
-Policy]+
  
-The rise in income inequalities between the richest and the poorest +1.14.1.5 Social and Ecological Standards 
-segments of society is a cause of social fracture and is not justified +remove paragraph
-by any convincing incentive justificationWe support a policy debate +
-in the EU to discuss an acceptable range of income inequality (e.g+
-1:12) and the ways to implement it.+
  
 +1.14.1.6 Trade Agreements Between Trading Partners With Huge Economic Disparities
 +remove paragraph
  
-PROPOSAL 8: Mandatory use of free software in public administration +1.15 Energy Policy 
-[Free software and Libre Culture]+remove "PIRATES defend the agreed climate goals of the EU. Successful reduction of global warming gases will only be possible with a mix of energy efficiency, an improved system for emissions trading at the European level, and strong support for renewable energy. We favor stronger cooperation and joint investments into the European energy infrastructure" from second paragraph and rewrite the rest.
  
-WeEuropean Piratesthink citizens' data must be processed, managed +remove "Transparent pricing and disclosure of the mix of energy sources is a prerequisite for a functionalconsumer-controlled energy market. Only thenEuropean consumers can take informed decisions what and where to buy - according to their individual preferences" from third paragraph.
-and secured with free software toolsFree software reduces +
-administrative costs and promotes local technical support.+
  
 +remove fourth paragraph entirely.
  
-PROPOSAL 9: Ban disproportionate and indiscriminate police's use of +1.16  Traffic Policy & 1.17  Drugs and Addiction Policy 
-weapons in demonstrations and protestsStop rubber bullets. [Civil +remove it all.
-Rights]+
  
-Wethe European Pirates, are against police's use in riot control of +We have not had the time to look at the Czech proposal yetbut I hope that we will have the time before the meeting starts on saturday.
-"kinetic impact munitions" known to cause bone fracturesinjuries to +
-internal organs, or death. We demand an unified and progressive +
-normative for riot control, to force police to use truly non-lethal +
-weapons and other techniques, converging to the most advanced +
-legislation among different member countries.+
  
 +Best regards,
  
-PROPOSAL 10: Ban indiscriminate personal identifications in public +Mab 
-spaces [Civil Rights] +
- +
-We, the European Pirates, are against the identification of citizens +
-during demonstrations if they aren't commiting a crime. If anyone can +
-be targeted in any demonstration or political development, manifesting +
-your opinion becomes a danger. +
- +
- +
-PROPOSAL 11: Unify the police's normative towards a more progressive +
-one [Civil Rights] +
- +
-We, the European Pirates, want to improve police's normative to a +
-common ground, based on the most progressive normative from different +
-member countries and focused in proper identification and avoiding +
-abuse of power. Abuse must be punished with demotion and dismissal +
-from office and lost all benefits (except pension) and the permanent +
-inability to hold any public office. +
- +
- +
-PROPOSAL 12: Ban immigration detention centers [Civil Rights] +
- +
-The human rights of people who are in immigration detention are of +
-particular concern to the European Pirates. Liberty is a fundamental +
-human right, recognised in major human rights instruments to which +
-Europe is a party, including the International Covenant on Civil and +
-Political Rights and the Convention on the Rights of the Child. People +
-who are held in detention are particularly vulnerable to violations of +
-their human rights. +
- +
- +
-PROPOSAL 13: Better citizen direct participation [Citizen +
-participation and Open Government] +
- +
-We, the European Pirates, want a common normative for Citizen +
-Initiatives at local, regional, national and European levels. We want +
-initiatives that can modify constitutions, laws, etc. always bound by +
-referendum. http://www.reforma13.es/reforma13/democracia-directa/ +
- +
- +
-PROPOSAL 14: Economy to serve the people [PP-DE: Economic and Financial Policy] +
- +
-We challenge the prevailing ideology that identifies wellbeing and +
-social development with increased production and consumption of +
-material goods, a model that cannot by any means be extended to the +
-whole world population of the world and threatens the environmental +
-sustainability of the planet. We support a social debate for the +
-search and development of alternative options - economy of the common +
-good, decreasing growth proposals, etc. - which challenge the +
-rationality and feasibility of the present ultra-productivistic model. +
- +
- +
-PROPOSAL 15: Preserve the Welfare State [PP-DE: Economic and Financial Policy] +
- +
-The Welfare State is one of the key contributions of the EU to our +
-world. It is founded on an implicit social contract which expects that +
-the well-off are willing to contribute to the overall social +
-expenditure with a larger proportion of their income than those with +
-low incomes. This social contract is being abandoned by the most +
-affluent, with the support of governments, which back their efforts to +
-avoid making a fair contribution to the public budget (SICAVs, tax +
-havens, regressive taxes, etc). We PIRATES want this trend to be +
-reversed. +
- +
---------------------------- +
- +
-COMMENTS TO THE PPDE DRAFT +
- +
-A) Add PP-CZ points to PP-DE programme. +
- +
-B) Marshall-Plan +
- +
-We urge you to use another expression instead of  Marshall Plan, +
-because it wasn't an economic plan based on solidarity.  It was a +
-strategic plan from USA to get privileges over weak countries.  It +
-doesn't fit the spirit of the proposal. +
- +
- +
-C) Energy Policy +
- +
-We recommend to give more importance to the decentralized integration +
-of the energy market, because it avoids monopolies and it doesn't need +
-subsidies (it would be impossible to subsidize every equipment on the +
-network), and less on the green side of supporting some +
-environmentalist issues, because they can be more polemic and make +
-this block rejected (not because we can't be greenish, just because we +
-have a lot of different kind of green pirates). +
- +
- +
-D) Ensuring everyone's privacy - It is not only important that they +
-should be at least suspected of preparing a crime, but it should be +
-guaranteed that this decision is authorised by a judge. So we would +
-like to add: +
- +
-"... preparing a crime, and is allowed and supervised by the judiciary power." +
- +
- +
-E) Cooling-off period for top politicians - We think it's important to +
-state a number of years because indeed many countries have laws +
-regarding this point but the periods are so brief that they are +
-useless: +
- +
-"... "cooling-off") of a mínimum duration of five (5) years" +
- +
- +
-F) Transparency of Public Procurement (additional points proposed for +
-the PPDE draft) +
- +
-* Transparency should be active and on demand. +
- +
-* No justification should be provided for requesting a certain information. +
- +
-* It should apply to government, public administration, political +
-parties, and private organisations which are owned (>30% share) by the +
-public sector or receive more tan 30% of their income from public +
-budgets. +
- +
-* Financial and banking institutions should also be subject to +
-transparency requirements, as the experience has shown that they +
-ultimately rely on public (taxpayers’s) money, as they “cannot be +
-allowed to fail”. +
- +
-* Transparency requirements should also include private entities that +
-carry out by delegation a public role. +
- +
-* Transparency laws should have the highest legal rank. +
- +
-* Administrative silence should not be legally accepted as a normal +
-answer to an information request. +
- +
-* The exceptions to transparency should be clearly and operationally +
-listed in the transparency law. +
- +
- +
-G) Legal Guarantee for Anonymous, Pseudonymous and Autonymous Access +
-to Network Services (further discussion/clarification necessary) +
- +
-Do you want to rule out the possibility that a private internet group +
-requires participants to disclose their name/identity? May need some +
-additional clarification if this is not the case and, if it is the +
-case, then we forsee that it might be polemic among our bases/not +
-ratified in the end, so we would recommend removing it. +
- +
- +
-H) Degradation of Private Monopolies and Opening Markets (additional +
-points proposed for the PPDE draft) +
- +
-* The EU and other industrialised countries should not force (e.g. at +
-the occasion of the negotiation of trade agreements) less developed +
-countries to accept IP provisions that are likely to be detrimental to +
-the essential needs of health, education and development +
-opportunities. They should not bully countries either that lawfully +
-use the safeguards of existing agreements for public health or any +
-other objectives (e.g. compulsory licenses of medicines). +
- +
-* We oppose the frequent abuses of patent privileges, such as +
-evergreening practices (introducing spurious changes to medicines with +
-expiring patent protection), paying for delay (to pay a compensation +
-to a generic producer in order to delay the marketing of a potential +
-generic competitor, the consequent reduction in the price of the +
-medicine). +
- +
-* We support the establishmet and funding of alternatives to +
-monopolistic incentives to pharmaceutical innovation (patents, test +
-data protection), such as those that delink the reward of the +
-innovation from the price of the product (prizes, health innovation +
-funds, patent pools, international treaty for biomedical research, +
-etc) +
- +
- +
-I) Agricultural Subsidies (further discussion necessary) +
- +
-Potential conflicts of removing all subsidies with policies to support +
-local food production and consumption should be explored. +
- +
-We have doubts about this point being related with our core vaules and +
-we forsee that it might be quite polemical among our bases, so we +
-would recommend removing it or, if it is related to core pirate +
-values, clarify better in which way. +
- +
- +
-J) European Economic and Monetary Union (additional points proposed +
-for the PPDE draft) +
- +
-We believe that the tradicional role of the banking and financial +
-system was and should be to support the smoth working of the real +
-productive (and consumptive) economy. However, the financial sector +
-has at present become something closer to a global casino as its main +
-objective is to carry out speculative activities with a short term +
-benefit that have become one of the main causes of the global +
-financial instability and of the present economic crisis. We therefore +
-want the financial sector to be much more transparent and well +
-regulated to serve the needs of the economic system and society at +
-large. +
- +
- +
-K) Taking Into Account the Interests of Small and Medium-Sized +
-Companies  (proposal to add the following introductory statement to +
-this section of the PPDE draft) +
- +
-The EU should be more active in enforcing anti-monopoly and +
-pro-competition policies. +
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