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statutes:minutes:minutes20120619 [2012/06/20 07:40] krishnastatutes:minutes:minutes20120619 [2012/07/03 17:56] krishna
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-The working pad is https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-stt-protocol-20120619 
  
 ===== Agenda ===== ===== Agenda =====
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 | 1.1 Party-Only model|https://eu.piratenpad.de/party-only-model |Steffen, Exception, Jack A, Stephen O | | |  | 1.1 Party-Only model|https://eu.piratenpad.de/party-only-model |Steffen, Exception, Jack A, Stephen O | | | 
 | 1.2 Hybrid Model | https://eu.piratenpad.de/hybrid-membership-model | Steffen, Justus, crackpille, Abri, Phi95Bou, Exception, Polnetz, Marin, Torben | | |   | 1.2 Hybrid Model | https://eu.piratenpad.de/hybrid-membership-model | Steffen, Justus, crackpille, Abri, Phi95Bou, Exception, Polnetz, Marin, Torben | | |  
-| | http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/dmsf_files/1580?download= https://eu.piratenpad.de/swiss-proposal | PP-CH| | |+| | [[http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/dmsf_files/1580?download=|Download]] \\ [[https://eu.piratenpad.de/swiss-proposal|online]] | PP-CH| | |
 | 1.3. Individual membership (Permanent Assembly) | https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-individual-membership-model | Abri ((No 2 and No 3 might correspond (almost in German law regarding juridical bodies, isn't it) )),  robotica, dude, pakki | | | | 1.3. Individual membership (Permanent Assembly) | https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-individual-membership-model | Abri ((No 2 and No 3 might correspond (almost in German law regarding juridical bodies, isn't it) )),  robotica, dude, pakki | | |
  
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 ^ Topic ^ What ^ Who ^ When ^ Type ^ ^ Topic ^ What ^ Who ^ When ^ Type ^
-| statutes topics| We will collect items in the list below that the later statutes may / should cover.| | |R |+| statutes topics| We will collect items in the list below that the later statutes may / should cover.| | | R |
 |Topics |Moved the collected topics with Aarau topics to  https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-statutes-draft| krishna |  |  |  |Topics |Moved the collected topics with Aarau topics to  https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-statutes-draft| krishna |  |  | 
  
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 | | what if the regulations are changed in a bad way (e.g. paneuro elections for already established parties - why kill our only chance by automation)? Shouldn't the reactions be decided then? | | | |  | | what if the regulations are changed in a bad way (e.g. paneuro elections for already established parties - why kill our only chance by automation)? Shouldn't the reactions be decided then? | | | | 
 | |have "them" follow us, not adjust to "them", \\ [remark: i.e. create GD not when the election system wants to, but we want to and are ready] | krishna | | | | |have "them" follow us, not adjust to "them", \\ [remark: i.e. create GD not when the election system wants to, but we want to and are ready] | krishna | | |
-| | AKS is not the only way to solve the problem that it addresses. Not required at this stage. | | | R |  +| | AKS is not the only way to solve the problem that it addresses. Not necessarily required at this stage. | | | R |  
 | Voting systems| greens have weighted voting system according to their strengths in countries / MEPs |M2Ys4U | | | |  | Voting systems| greens have weighted voting system according to their strengths in countries / MEPs |M2Ys4U | | | | 
 | |suggestion: square root of total votes for the pirate party in the country / factor \\ example: PP-DE get's 10% of 40 mio votes -> 4 mio votes -> 2.000 / factor \\  example2: PP-LU get's 10% of 400 k votes -> 40k votes ->  200 / factor| | Anders | |  | |suggestion: square root of total votes for the pirate party in the country / factor \\ example: PP-DE get's 10% of 40 mio votes -> 4 mio votes -> 2.000 / factor \\  example2: PP-LU get's 10% of 400 k votes -> 40k votes ->  200 / factor| | Anders | | 
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 ===== Proposed draft statutes from Jack Allnutt ===== ===== Proposed draft statutes from Jack Allnutt =====
  
-Proposal here: http://piratenpad.de/p/PPEU-Statutes-Allnutt \\ +[[http://piratenpad.de/p/PPEU-Statutes-Allnutt|Steve Allnutt's working pad / proposal]]  \\ 
-E-mail to mailing list: http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-eu/2012-June/001293.html+ML was notified: http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-eu/2012-June/001293.html
  
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 +|  | structural input from Krishna useful | Jack  |  |  |  
 | | individual participation missing |? | | |  | | individual participation missing |? | | | 
 | | maybe do not artificially limit ourselves to conditions made by others (e.g. EU competences). If we do that it is difficult to create change. | krishna| | |  | | maybe do not artificially limit ourselves to conditions made by others (e.g. EU competences). If we do that it is difficult to create change. | krishna| | | 
 | | "good job", many bullets points useful, no major objections so far | | | | | | "good job", many bullets points useful, no major objections so far | | | |
-| |maybe more than one statutes variant should be created to allow actual voting by the parties' bases|luna | | |+| |more than one statutes variant should be created to allow actual voting by the parties' bases|luna | | |
  
 ===== Miscellanea ===== ===== Miscellanea =====
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