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| - | 14th European Pirate Party Council Meeting | + | **14th European Pirate Party Council Meeting**\\ |
| - | Dec. 16th 2023 | + | Dec. 16th 2023 | Online meeting\\ |
| - | Board members present: | + | Board members present:\\ |
| - | Mikulaš Peksa | + | |
| - | Veronika | + | |
| - | Alessandro | + | |
| - | Petra | + | |
| - | Mia | + | |
| - | Jan | + | |
| - | Board assistance team: | + | Mikulaš Peksa\\ |
| - | Mab | + | Veronika Murzynová\\ |
| - | Cal | + | Alessandro Ciofini\\ |
| + | Petra Kovacec\\ | ||
| + | Mia Utz\\ | ||
| + | Jan Mareš\\ | ||
| - | Opening of the meeting and registration of delegates | + | Board assistance team:\\ |
| + | Mattias Bjärnemalm (Mab)\\ | ||
| + | Giuseppe Calandra (Cal)\\ | ||
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| + | Opening of the meeting and registration of delegates\\ | ||
| Delegates | Delegates | ||
| - | | PP-CZ | Česká pirátská strana| 6 | Samuel Vanco, Raman Ojha | + | | PP-CZ | Česká pirátská strana| 6 | Samuel Vanco, Raman Ojha | |
| - | | PP-FI | Piraattipuolue | 1 | Transferring vote to PPSE (Sara Hjalmarsson) | + | | PP-FI | Piraattipuolue | 1 | Transferring vote to PPSE (Sara Hjalmarsson) |
| - | | PP-FR | Parti Pirate | 1 | Pierre Beyssac | + | | PP-FR | Parti Pirate | 1 | Pierre Beyssac |
| - | | PP-DE | Piratenpartei Deutschland | + | | PP-DE | Piratenpartei Deutschland |
| - | | PP-GR | Κόμμα Πειρατών Ελλάδας | + | | PP-GR | Κόμμα Πειρατών Ελλάδας |
| - | | PP-IS | Píratar | 3 | ABSENT | + | | PP-IS | Píratar | 3 | ABSENT |
| - | | PP-IT | Partito Pirata | + | | PP-IT | Partito Pirata |
| - | | Pirati | Pirati.io | 1 | Marco Confalonieri, | + | | Pirati | Pirati.io | 1 | Marco Confalonieri, |
| - | | PP-LU | Piratepartei Lëtzebuerg | + | | PP-LU | Piratepartei Lëtzebuerg |
| - | | PP-NL | Piratenpartij | 1 |Andrel Linnenbank | + | | PP-NL | Piratenpartij | 1 |Andrel Linnenbank |
| - | | PP-NO | Piratpartiet | 1 | ABSENT | + | | PP-NO | Piratpartiet | 1 | ABSENT |
| - | | PP-PL | Polska Partia Piratów | 1 | ABSENT | + | | PP-PL | Polska Partia Piratów | 1 | ABSENT |
| - | | PP-CAT | Pirates de Catalunya | + | | PP-CAT | Pirates de Catalunya |
| - | | PP-SE | Piratpartiet | 1 | Sara Hjalmarsson | + | | PP-SE | Piratpartiet | 1 | Sara Hjalmarsson |
| - | | PP-CH | Piratenpartei Schweiz | 1 | ABSENT | + | | PP-CH | Piratenpartei Schweiz | 1 | ABSENT |
| - | | PP-SI | Piratska stranka Slovenije | + | | PP-SI | Piratska stranka Slovenije |
| - | | PP-SK | Pirátska strana - Slovensko | + | | PP-SK | Pirátska strana - Slovensko |
| - | | YPE | Young Pirates of Europe | 2 | Matěj Bělohoubek (joined at 10:32) | + | | YPE | Young Pirates of Europe | 2 | Matěj Bělohoubek (joined at 10: |
| - | | MEPs | Member of the European Parliament | 2 | Samuel Venco, Anja Hirschel | + | | MEPs | Member of the European Parliament | 2 | Samuel Venco, Anja Hirschel |
| - | Total members present: 13 (over 19) | + | Total members present: 13 (over 19)\\ |
| - | Total votes: 22 (over 30) | + | Total votes: 22 (over 30)\\ |
| Welcoming remarks from the European Pirate Party chair | Welcoming remarks from the European Pirate Party chair | ||
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| Election of meeting chairs and minute takers | Election of meeting chairs and minute takers | ||
| - | Mikulas, Veronika, Mab: chair | + | Proposal: |
| - | Alessandro, Cal, Petra: minute takers | + | Mikulas, Veronika, Mab: chair\\ |
| + | Alessandro, Cal, Petra: minute takers\\ | ||
| - | Approved | + | Approved\\ |
| - | Approval of the agenda | + | Approval of the agenda\\ |
| - | 1. Meeting administration | + | 1. Meeting administration\\ |
| - | a) Opening of the meeting and registration of delegates | + | a) Opening of the meeting and registration of delegates\\ |
| - | b) Welcoming remarks from the European Pirate Party chair | + | b) Welcoming remarks from the European Pirate Party chair\\ |
| - | c) Election of meeting chairs and minute takers | + | c) Election of meeting chairs and minute takers\\ |
| - | d) Approval of the agenda | + | d) Approval of the agenda\\ |
| - | 2. Decisions and discussions | + | 2. Decisions and discussions\\ |
| - | a) Update on the ratification of the Common European Election Program (CEEP) and the Common Pirate Strategy (CPS) for the 2024 European Elections. | + | a) Update on the ratification of the Common European Election Program (CEEP) and the Common Pirate Strategy (CPS) for the 2024 European Elections.\\ |
| - | b) 2024 European Parliament Elections. | + | b) 2024 European Parliament Elections. |
| - | b1) Proposal to elect European Pirate lead candidates. | + | b1) Proposal to elect European Pirate lead candidates.\\ |
| - | c) relationship agreement with the Greens/EFA Group. | + | c) relationship agreement with the Greens/EFA Group. |
| - | 3. Finances and discharge | + | 3. Finances and discharge\\ |
| - | a) Report on the 2023 Accounts. | + | a) Report on the 2023 Accounts.\\ |
| - | b) Approval of the 2024 Budget. | + | b) Approval of the 2024 Budget.\\\ |
| - | c) Donations policy | + | c) Donations policy\\ |
| - | 4. Closing of the meeting | + | 4. Closing of the meeting\\ |
| - | a) AOB | + | a) AOB\\ |
| - | a1) Point of information about lapsing Memberships. | + | a1) Point of information about lapsing Memberships. |
| - | a2) Point of information about the 15th Council meeting, scheduled to take place on January 27 in Luxembourg next year. | + | a2) Point of information about the 15th Council meeting, scheduled to take place on January 27 in Luxembourg next year.\\ |
| - | b) Final greetings | + | b) Final greetings\\ |
| - | Update on the ratification of the CEEP and the CPS | + | Update on the ratification of the CEEP and the CPS\\ |
| - | PP-DE adopted the CPS. The ratification process is being tracked on their wiki. | + | PP-DE adopted the CPS. The ratification process is being tracked on their wiki.\\ |
| - | PP-LU will vote on both Jan 27th in the morning. | + | PP-LU will vote on both Jan 27th in the morning. |
| - | Mikulas on PP-CZ: there' | + | Mikulas on PP-CZ: there' |
| - | PP-NL did not vote, hoeps to do so soon and does not expect issues with ratification.Would like to add basic income, but that will not be an obstacle for ratification. | + | PP-NL did not vote, hoeps to do so soon and does not expect issues with ratification.Would like to add basic income, but that will not be an obstacle for ratification.\\ |
| - | PP-CZ: Someone (Raman?) complained about derogating from CEEP. | + | PP-CZ: Someone (Raman?) complained about derogating from CEEP.\\ |
| - | Mikulaš: Keep in mind that there are two different parts of the process. What's binding for MEP candidates does not always coincide with what's binding for the party. | + | Mikulaš: Keep in mind that there are two different parts of the process. What's binding for MEP candidates does not always coincide with what's binding for the party. |
| - | PP-GR: On the 15th of Jan will vote on the CEEP. | + | PP-GR: On the 15th of Jan will vote on the CEEP.\\ |
| - | Pirati.io ratified both documents pretty early, translation is proceding | + | Pirati.io ratified both documents pretty early, translation is proceeding |
| - | Veronika: Vote on the answer of the Council to PPCZ regarding their reservations over certain points in the program. | + | Veronika: Vote on the answer of the Council to PPCZ regarding their reservations over certain points in the program.\\ |
| https:// | https:// | ||
| - | 21+/0/0 | + | 21+/0/0\\ |
| - | Veronika: Moving to the next point of the agenda: 2024 elections. Delegates check that the information we have about their country and the process is correct. | + | Veronika: Moving to the next point of the agenda: 2024 elections. Delegates check that the information we have about their country and the process is correct.\\ |
| - | The parties present the proposal and open a discussion. | + | The parties present the proposal and open a discussion.\\ |
| Pirati.io: Since there are two organizations in Italy, I believe that we need to run united. | Pirati.io: Since there are two organizations in Italy, I believe that we need to run united. | ||
| - | Mikulaš: Italian law is specific in that context, any organisation which runs for elections and has alreday | + | Mikulaš: Italian law is specific in that context, any organisation which runs for elections and has already |
| - | PPDE: agreeing to the suggestion | + | PPDE: agreeing to the suggestion\\ |
| - | PPSK: Rudolph is replaced by Juraj | + | PPSK: Rudolph is replaced by Juraj\\ |
| - | VOTE: Italian European Elections 2024 | + | VOTE: Italian European Elections 2024\\ |
| https:// | https:// | ||
| - | 22+/0/0 | + | 22+/0/0\\ |
| - | Veronika: The Board as a whole has made a proposal for election of lead candidates for the European Pirate Party for the coming elections. | + | Veronika: The Board as a whole has made a proposal for election of lead candidates for the European Pirate Party for the coming elections.\\ |
| - | Mikulaš: there is a concept of lead candidates, the next cair of eu comission should not be decided by the council, but should be a person that has the biggest support coming in the European election. We should elect lead candidates- two of them. It is mostly for PR purpose. Lead candidates should be the forerunners on one of the lists of parties. The lead candidates should have more obligations on the European level and also more visibility (by media). | + | Mikulaš: there is a concept of lead candidates, the next cair of eu comission should not be decided by the council, but should be a person that has the biggest support coming in the European election. We should elect lead candidates- two of them. It is mostly for PR purpose. Lead candidates should be the forerunners on one of the lists of parties. The lead candidates should have more obligations on the European level and also more visibility (by media).\\ |
| - | PPNL: there' | + | PPNL: there' |
| Mikulaš: it is added value even for Dutch pirates, to be a counter canidate against the Greeens | Mikulaš: it is added value even for Dutch pirates, to be a counter canidate against the Greeens | ||
| - | PPLU: asking about the gender of the lead candidates. | + | PPLU: asking about the gender of the lead candidates. |
| - | Mikulaš: the Board cannot propose | + | Mikulaš: the Board cannot propose |
| - | PPCZ: asking about point no.3, beause | + | PPCZ: asking about point no.3, because |
| - | Mikulaš: it is a reasonable argumentation. We don't have to necessary | + | Mikulaš: it is a reasonable argumentation. We don't have to necessary |
| - | Veronika: The rule is quite restrictive, | + | Veronika: The rule is quite restrictive, |
| - | Anja: Every party can propose just one person? | + | Anja: Every party can propose just one person?\\ |
| - | Mikulaš: the motion doesn' | + | Mikulaš: the motion doesn' |
| - | PPNL: the Council has to decide who can be the lead candidate. | + | PPNL: the Council has to decide who can be the lead candidate.\\ |
| - | Veronika: changes have to be made to the proposal | + | Veronika: changes have to be made to the proposal\\ |
| - | Mikulaš: asks Mab to update the text | + | Mikulaš: asks Mab to update the text\\ |
| - | Mab: will update the text | + | Mab: will update the text \\ |
| - | PPDE: agrees to the original text | + | PPDE: agrees to the original text\\ |
| - | Mikulaš: updated the text, proposed the updated version | + | Mikulaš: updated the text, proposed the updated version\\ |
| - | Anja: so each board is proposing their candiadte | + | Anja: so each board is proposing their candidate |
| - | Veronika: the candidates will be nominated by individual party no later than next council meeting (January) | + | Veronika: the candidates will be nominated by individual party no later than next council meeting (January)\\ |
| - | Mikulaš: points out a mandatory | + | Mikulaš: points out a mandatory |
| - | Mab: suggest not to make the official requirement, | + | Mab: suggest not to make the official requirement, |
| - | Mikulaš: agrees | + | Mikulaš: agrees\\ |
| - | Veronika: ask Mab to open the vote in Discourse | + | Veronika: ask Mab to open the vote in Discourse\\ |
| - | VOTE: Lead Candidates | + | VOTE: Lead Candidates\\ |
| https:// | https:// | ||
| - | 22+/0/0 | + | 22+/0/0\\ |
| - | Motion approved | + | Motion approved\\ |
| - | Veronika: approved. Let's move to the next topic on the agenda https:// | + | Veronika: approved. Let's move to the next topic on the agenda https:// |
| - | Mikulaš: thank everybody who participated to the negotiation. To explain: 2009-2014-2019, | + | Mikulaš: thank everybody who participated to the negotiation. To explain: 2009-2014-2019, |
| Currently, we could run also in 2024 without an agreement but the current proposal puts in a more solid base that all pirates eventually elected in 2024 can have a seat in the Greens/EFA group in EP. | Currently, we could run also in 2024 without an agreement but the current proposal puts in a more solid base that all pirates eventually elected in 2024 can have a seat in the Greens/EFA group in EP. | ||
| - | We wanted to secure the access to the resource of the group and the visibility of our MEPs within the group and we succeeded. It provides also more guarantees to our current MEPs. | + | We wanted to secure the access to the resource of the group and the visibility of our MEPs within the group and we succeeded. It provides also more guarantees to our current MEPs.\\ |
| - | I hope that we will manage also a proper section in the Greens/EFA website. | + | I hope that we will manage also a proper section in the Greens/EFA website\\. |
| - | This is a techincal | + | This is a technical |
| - | The alternatives we may consider (i.e. Renew) are actually acting in a more aggressive and less effective way for the Pirates. Open for questions. | + | The alternatives we may consider (i.e. Renew) are actually acting in a more aggressive and less effective way for the Pirates. Open for questions.\\ |
| - | Veronika: thank you. I personally think it's a big step forward for pirates in Europa. I would like to open a discussion here. | + | Veronika: thank you. I personally think it's a big step forward for pirates in Europa. I would like to open a discussion here.\\ |
| - | PPDE: it's clearly written and pointed out that we as pirates will be visible in this agreement and this will be visible outside also for all voters, so they know this candidate or this Member of Parliament is a Pirate. | + | PPDE: it's clearly written and pointed out that we as pirates will be visible in this agreement and this will be visible outside also for all voters, so they know this candidate or this Member of Parliament is a Pirate.\\ |
| - | PPGR: Pirates have to join forces with other political parties on climate change. But there have been some issues with the Greens on EU level. Expresses hope that after this agreement we will be treated as equals in the Greens/EFA group, no more cenzorship | + | PPGR: Pirates have to join forces with other political parties on climate change. But there have been some issues with the Greens on EU level. Expresses hope that after this agreement we will be treated as equals in the Greens/EFA group, no more censorship |
| - | PPLU: Luxembourg is a good example on how the collaboration with the Greens is differetn | + | PPLU: Luxembourg is a good example on how the collaboration with the Greens is different |
| - | Mikulaš: PPEU can't force memeber | + | Mikulaš: PPEU can't force member |
| - | Veronika: it is important to understand the agreement properly. Asks Mab to open the vote. | + | Veronika: it is important to understand the agreement properly. Asks Mab to open the vote.\\ |
| - | VOTE: Relationship agreement with the Greens/EFA Group | + | VOTE: Relationship agreement with the Greens/EFA Group\\ |
| https:// | https:// | ||
| - | 22+/0/0 | + | 22+/0/0\\ |
| - | Motion approved | + | Motion approved\\ |
| - | Short break till 12:05. Mikulaš left the meeting. | + | Short break till 12:05. Mikulaš left the meeting.\\ |
| - | Veronika: thanks to all who participated in the negotiation. Next point: Report on the 2023 Accounts. There is a treasurer present who can present the report if nedded. | + | Veronika: thanks to all who participated in the negotiation. Next point: Report on the 2023 Accounts. There is a treasurer present who can present the report if needed. |
| - | Marco: some moths ago it was pointed out we have another account. Wants to ask if that acc was taken into consideration for the draft. | + | Marco: some moths ago it was pointed out we have another account. Wants to ask if that acc was taken into consideration for the draft.\\ |
| - | Alessandro: this acc has not been finalised yet and we were not aware of that previously. Consider this pending, because the acc is not closed yet. Consider it done once it's closed. | + | Alessandro: this acc has not been finalised yet and we were not aware of that previously. Consider this pending, because the acc is not closed yet. Consider it done once it's closed.\\ |
| - | Veronika: some people have trouble accessing the report. There is no voting on the current point, because it's plainly | + | Veronika: some people have trouble accessing the report. There is no voting on the current point, because it's plainly |
| - | Next point: approval of 2024 budget. | + | Next point: approval of 2024 budget.\\ |
| - | The draft has been available for a couple of weeks and there ahave been no questions. | + | The draft has been available for a couple of weeks and there have been no questions.\\ |
| - | Bastian: missing the invoices on the donations. The visibility of donations has an impact for the donor and open invoices should be in the budget. Budget is not correct because donations are not visible. | + | Bastian: missing the invoices on the donations. The visibility of donations has an impact for the donor and open invoices should be in the budget. Budget is not correct because donations are not visible.\\ |
| - | Alessandro: denies not including invoices. In case of receiving one, he would include it. Explains the costs of servers. | + | Alessandro: denies not including invoices. In case of receiving one, he would include it. Explains the costs of servers.\\ |
| - | Bastian: there' | + | Bastian: there' |
| Alessandro: the estimated price for the next year will cover all the services and welcomes any additional suggestions by Bastian. Asks for additional explanation by Bastian, since he didn't understand the issue. | Alessandro: the estimated price for the next year will cover all the services and welcomes any additional suggestions by Bastian. Asks for additional explanation by Bastian, since he didn't understand the issue. | ||
| - | Veronika: asks Bastian to later elaborate on the donation issue over message or call. Suggests to move on to the vote. | + | Veronika: asks Bastian to later elaborate on the donation issue over message or call. Suggests to move on to the vote.\\ |
| - | Bastian: complains over.. not sure what. | + | Bastian: complains over.. not sure what.\\ |
| - | Veronika: again asks to later elaborate and to vote if there is no further comments. | + | Veronika: again asks to later elaborate and to vote if there is no further comments.\\ |
| - | Alessandro: assures all the invoices are taken care of and all the expenses/ | + | Alessandro: assures all the invoices are taken care of and all the expenses/ |
| - | Veronika: asks to refrain from personal interactions. | + | Veronika: asks to refrain from personal interactions. |
| - | PPDE: since there are some issues on the budget, so we can not take informative decision. | + | PPDE: since there are some issues on the budget, so we can not take informative decision\\. |
| - | Veronika: there is enough room in the budget for eventualities and the amount proposed covers all the expenses, assures the budget is well prepared. | + | Veronika: there is enough room in the budget for eventualities and the amount proposed covers all the expenses, assures the budget is well prepared. |
| - | PPCZ: is there any consideration regarding selling merch for eu elections? This could help busting our budget. | + | PPCZ: is there any consideration regarding selling merch for eu elections? This could help busting our budget.\\ |
| Veronika: there is a legal base issue. Different countries have different legal bases for selling merch. | Veronika: there is a legal base issue. Different countries have different legal bases for selling merch. | ||
| - | Alessandro: agrees to what Veronika says. | + | Alessandro: agrees to what Veronika says\\. |
| - | Veronika: asks Mab open the vote. | + | Veronika: asks Mab open the vote.\\ |
| - | Vote: 2024 Budget | + | Vote: 2024 Budget |
| - | https:// | + | https:// |
| - | 18+/2/2 | + | 18+/2/2\\ |
| - | Budget 2024 approved | + | Budget 2024 approved\\ |
| - | PPGR: comments on a mistake on the point of the agenda | + | PPGR: comments on a mistake on the point of the agenda\\ |
| - | Mab: fixed | + | Mab: fixed\\ |
| - | Veronika: moving on. AOB | + | Veronika: moving on. AOB\\ |
| - | PPLU: Wondering about current status | + | PPLU: Wondering about current status |
| - | Veronika: adding to agenda in AOB. Moving to point: Information about lapsing Memberships. | + | Veronika: adding to agenda in AOB. Moving to point: Information about lapsing Memberships. |
| - | Alessandro: Norway and Switzerland didn't pay the fee for two consecutive years, fees were lowered from 300 eur to 50, so in teh next council meeting they won't be considered members anymore in accordance with our statutes. | + | Alessandro: Norway and Switzerland didn't pay the fee for two consecutive years, fees were lowered from 300 eur to 50, so in the next council meeting they won't be considered members anymore in accordance with our statutes.\\ |
| - | Veronika: invites respective | + | Veronika: invites respective |
| - | Bastian: is the location set to LU? | + | Bastian: is the location set to LU?\\ |
| - | Veronika: confirms. Carol, as the main organiser, would you like to add something? | + | Veronika: confirms. Carol, as the main organiser, would you like to add something?\\ |
| - | Carol: it is not directly in LU city, but well connected, in a community center, easily accessible. Contact me if anyone needs accomodation. | + | Carol: it is not directly in LU city, but well connected, in a community center, easily accessible.\\ Contact me if anyone needs accommodation. \\ |
| - | https:// | + | https:// |
| - | Veronika: we can organise room sharing, to make it into more of a community event. Also asks to share tips on what to do in the city and country. We will be sharing more information for the event, so everyone can plan their trip. Book the dates. Also at the meeting new board will be elected. We encourage PPs to put forward candidates for the Board. | + | Veronika: we can organise room sharing, to make it into more of a community event. Also asks to share tips on what to do in the city and country. We will be sharing more information for the event, so everyone can plan their trip. Book the dates. Also at the meeting new board will be elected. We encourage PPs to put forward candidates for the Board.\\ |
| - | PPCZ: is anyone of the people present planning to go to CZ Congress in January? | + | PPCZ: is anyone of the people present planning to go to CZ Congress in January?\\ |
| - | Veronika is adding the topic to AOB. No further questions of LU Congress. Next point: political party within the authority for European political parties and European political foundations. Mab: As European political party, you'd need either to have received 3% in seven member states in the late last European elections, which we didn' | + | Veronika is adding the topic to AOB. No further questions of LU Congress. Next point: political party within the authority for European political parties and European political foundations. Mab: As European political party, you'd need either to have received 3% in seven member states in the late last European elections, which we didn' |
| - | Veronika: so let's hope for a successfull | + | Veronika: so let's hope for a successful |
| - | PPCZ: I have been talking with some members of the German party who said that they would appreciate if the PPCZ would organise something like a seminar to. Media presentation and social media presentation. I did send it later to through the mailing list of the PPEU to people who might be interested, and the seminar is planned to be held at the time of the PPCZ event. Also get in touch with PPCZ members for the accomodation. | + | PPCZ: I have been talking with some members of the German party who said that they would appreciate if the PPCZ would organise something like a seminar to. Media presentation and social media presentation. I did send it later to through the mailing list of the PPEU to people who might be interested, and the seminar is planned to be held at the time of the PPCZ event. Also get in touch with PPCZ members for the accommodation.\\ |
| - | Veronika: everyone is welcome, second day of general assembly we have some webminars | + | Veronika: everyone is welcome, second day of general assembly we have some webinars |
| - | FAMILY PICTURE :) | + | FAMILY PICTURE :)\\ |
| - | Final greetings | + | Final greetings\\ |
| - | Meeting end: 13:06 | + | Meeting end: 13:06\\ |
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