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--- statutes:minutes:minutes20120619 [2012/06/20 07:29] – krishna
+++ statutes:minutes:minutes20120619 [2013/07/21 19:15] (current) – external edit 127.0.0.1
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-The working pad is https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-stt-protocol-20120619
 ===== Agenda =====
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 | 1.1 Party-Only model|https://eu.piratenpad.de/party-only-model |Steffen, Exception, Jack A, Stephen O | | |
 | 1.2 Hybrid Model | https://eu.piratenpad.de/hybrid-membership-model | Steffen, Justus, crackpille, Abri, Phi95Bou, Exception, Polnetz, Marin, Torben | | |
-| | http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/dmsf_files/1580?download= & https://eu.piratenpad.de/swiss-proposal | PP-CH| | |
+| | [[http://projects.piratenpartei.ch/dmsf_files/1580?download=|Download]] \\ [[https://eu.piratenpad.de/swiss-proposal|online]] | PP-CH| | |
 | 1.3. Individual membership (Permanent Assembly) | https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-individual-membership-model | Abri ((No 2 and No 3 might correspond (almost in German law regarding juridical bodies, isn't it) )),  robotica, dude, pakki | | |
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 ^ Topic ^ What ^ Who ^ When ^ Type ^
-| statutes topics| We will collect items in the list below that the later statutes may / should cover.| | |R |
+| statutes topics| We will collect items in the list below that the later statutes may / should cover.| | | R |
 |Topics |Moved the collected topics with Aarau topics to  https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-statutes-draft| krishna |  |  |
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 | | what if the regulations are changed in a bad way (e.g. paneuro elections for already established parties - why kill our only chance by automation)? Shouldn't the reactions be decided then? | | | |
 | |have "them" follow us, not adjust to "them", \\ [remark: i.e. create GD not when the election system wants to, but we want to and are ready] | krishna | | |
-| | AKS is not the only way to solve the problem that it addresses. Not required at this stage. | | | R |
+| | AKS is not the only way to solve the problem that it addresses. Not necessarily required at this stage. | | | R |
 | Voting systems| greens have weighted voting system according to their strengths in countries / MEPs |M2Ys4U | | | |
 | |suggestion: square root of total votes for the pirate party in the country / factor \\ example: PP-DE get's 10% of 40 mio votes -> 4 mio votes -> 2.000 / factor \\  example2: PP-LU get's 10% of 400 k votes -> 40k votes ->  200 / factor| | Anders | |
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 | | skip the august meeting| | | R |
 | |Prague decl. approval postponed from last week's board meeting by the Swedish PP. After the Barcelona meeting there is no other board meeting before the national assembly of Swedish PP in November (only way would be to prepone the Sept. meeting. | mad | | |
 ===== Proposed draft statutes from Jack Allnutt =====
-* Proposal here: http://piratenpad.de/p/PPEU-Statutes-Allnutt
+* [[http://piratenpad.de/p/PPEU-Statutes-Allnutt|Steve Allnutt's working pad / proposal]]  \\
-* E-mail to mailing list: http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-eu/2012-June/001293.html
+* ML was notified: http://lists.pp-international.net/private/pp-eu/2012-June/001293.html
 ^ Topic ^ What ^ Who ^ When ^ Type ^
-| |individual participation missing |? | | |
+|  | structural input from Krishna useful | Jack  |  |  |
-| maybe do not artificially limit ourselves to conditions made by others (e.g. EU competences). If we do that it is difficult to create change. | krishna| | | |
+| | individual participation missing |? | | |
+| | maybe do not artificially limit ourselves to conditions made by others (e.g. EU competences). If we do that it is difficult to create change. | krishna| | |
+| | "good job", many bullets points useful, no major objections so far | | | |
+| |more than one statutes variant should be created to allow actual voting by the parties' bases|luna | | |
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