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https://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=13th_council_meeting_2023\\

Recording:https://owncloud.ag-technik.de/s/tPb6Wjo7wXJLZKa \\

=== Draft Agenda ===


//**9:30-10:00**//
** Meeting administration**   
- Opening of the meeting and registration of delegates\\

PP-AT: --> asked to be observer member?\\
PP-CZ: Mike Gill, Raman Ojha (6 Votes) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-EE:  --> asked to be observer member\\
PP-FI : Marek Nečada (1 Vote) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-FR: Vincent Douroux (gravfu) (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-DE: Anne Herpertz, Daniel Mönch (2 votes) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-GR: \\
Pirati.io: Marco Confalonieri (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-IT: 2023 membership fees PAID \\
PP-IS Iceland: Kristín Ólafsdóttir (3 Votes) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-LU Luxembourg: Carole Weiler (2 Votes) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-NL: Mark van Treuren (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID \\
PP-NO: \\
PP-PL: \\
PP-CAT: Exile (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-ES: not existent\\
PP-SE: Henrik Passmark + Alexandra (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
PP-CH:  \\
PP- SI: Aljaž Božičko (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
Slovak: Rudolf (1 Vote) 2023 membership fees PAID\\
YPE : Christian Elia (replaced at point 4a) Maija Li Raudaskoski, Samuel Enenkl, Matej Belohoubek, Mili Sloukova, Vincent Douroux (gravfu) (2 votes)\\
MEPs : Paul Diegel + Anja Hirschel (2 votes)\\

- Welcoming remarks from the European Pirate Party chair\\
- Election of meeting chairs and minute takers\\

Meeting chairs: Mikulaš, Alessandro\\
approved\\

Minute takers: Petra, Lukas, Matthias, Cal\\
approved\\

*Approval of the agenda*
approved as presented by board\\

**10:00-10:10**
**Approval of new Members**
Application from the Estonian Pirate Party to become Observer member of the association\\
Marco (pirati.io) asks to make sure the request is legitimate and the operation is possible according to the pp-eu statutes\\
Mab in the comment section: A representative for the Estonian Pirate Party sent an email to the Board, just before the start of the previous Council meeting to switch the status of the Estonian PIrate Party from full member to Observer member. Due to this request coming too late to be addressed at that Council meeting it is on the agenda of this one instead\\ 
Cédric Levieux asks why they want to become observer member and want to loose their status of ordinary member\\
Chair moves this point to later on the agenda.\\
No objections\\

**10:10-12:30**
**Finances and discharge**
Budget presented by Alessandro\\
Link to the transparent account: https://ib.fio.cz/ib/transparent?a=2701538320&lng=ENGLISH&f=01.01.2023&t=08.07.2023\\

Marek asks about 1000 euros for tech stuff. \\
Chair redirects the meeting to ask about the 2022 budget\\
Marco asks about the expense for the domain name (0€) and the treasurer reports that there is no invoice regarding it. The subject is confusing, and Mia, Florian, and Cedric's names come up.\\
Alessandro presents the issue of the newly discovered bank account we have no access to.\\

- Approval of the {{ :ppeu:2022_ppeu_discharged_budget_.pdf |22022 Annual Accounts}}\\
Link to the Budget 2022 discharge votes: [https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/budget-2022-discharge/477/11]

PP-LU joins the meeting; Carole Weiler is the delegate.\\
PP-FR joins the meeting; gravfu is the delegate.\\

PP-CZ: +6\\
PP-FI: +1\\
PP-FR: +1\\
PP-DE: +2\\
Pirati.io: +1\\
PP-IS Iceland: missing in action Was driving in the highlands with bad connection\\
PP-LU: +2\\
PP-NL: +1\\
PP-CAT: 0\\
PP-SE: +1\\
PP-SI: +1\\
Slovak: +1\\
YPE: missing in action\\
MEPs: +2\\

- Approval of the {{ :ppeu:2023_ppeu_proposed_budget.pdf |2023 Budget}}\\

Marek asks about the expenses for the servers. Are we only paying for servers or also the service?\\
Basically we are only paying for the servers.\\

Chair opens the vote: [https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/budget-2023-proposal/479]

PP-CZ: +6
PP-FI: +1
PP-FR: +1
PP-DE: +2
Pirati.io: +1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU: +2
PP-NL: +1
PP-CAT: 0
PP-SE: +1
PP-SI: +1
PP-SK: +1
YPE: missing in action
MEPs: +2

**Approval of new Members**
Application from the Estonian Pirate Party to become Observer member of the association\\
No objections.\\ 

Alessandro asks about the status of pirate party of spain. He asks if they are still existing.\\ 
Exile answers, that there were some legal issues and that they could not get the name of Pirate Party Spain. He asks for patience as there are people in spain who want to rebuild the pirates in spain for the upcoming european elections.\\ 

Peter Pavel replaces Rudolf at the PPSK delegation.\\ 

- Discharge of the 2022 board\\
already covered
- Report on the 2023 Accounts\\ 
already covered

Break of the session at 11:23 untill 11:35\\ 
YPE joins the meeting. 4 delegates (2 Votes): Maija Li Raudaskoski, Samuel Enenkl, Matej Belohoubek, Mili Sloukova replacing Christian Elia. Samuel Enenkl is casting the votes\\ 
Common pirate strategy is moved to before lunch break\\
Mikulaš presents the Common Pirate Strategy for the 2024 European Elections- link: [https://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=common_pirate_strategy]\\
Chair introduces the amendment proposals.[https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/motion-amendments-thread/440/4] and [https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/motion-amendments-thread/440/15]\\
Anja speaks for the the proposal regarding the first amendment (changes in A 7), rejecting xenophobic, nationalist, and racist ideas instead of respecting a hard cordon sanitaire. (we could vote in favor of good AMs whoever tables them)\\

Marco notes that the UDHR includes intellectual property rights at article 27 §2\\

voting starts with amendment 3\\

Amendment 1 (cordon sanitaire)
Proposal: to replace the text in A7 in the Board proposal with the following text:\\
The Pirate delegation shall firmly oppose xenophobic, nationalist, and racist ideas.\\
PP-CZ: +6\\
PP-FI: +1\\
PP-FR: abstain\\
PP-DE: missing in action\\
Pirati.io: +1\\
PP-IS: missing in action\\
PP-LU: +2\\
PP-NL: missing in action\\
PP-CAT: missing in action\\
PP-SE: missing in action\\
PP-SI: +1\\
PP-SK: +1\\
YPE: abstain (2 votes)\\
MEPs: +2\\

Yes: 13\\
No: 0\\
abstain: 2\\

Amendment 2 (chairperson of the pirate delegation)\\
Proposal: to delete the last sentence in paragraph A6. So the sentence “The chairperson of the Pirate delegation shall be the natural candidate for any office within the bureau of the Group, the bodies of \\
Parliament or the European commission.” would be deleted\\
PP-CZ: +6\\
PP-FI: +1\\
PP-FR:\\
PP-DE: +2\\
Pirati.io: +1\\
PP-IS:\\
PP-LU: +2\\
PP-NL: +1\\
PP-CAT: abstain\\
PP-SE: +1\\
PP-SI: +1\\
PP-SK:+1\\
YPE: +2\\
MEPs: +2\\

Yes: 20\\
No: 0\\
Abstain: 1\\

Voted first:\\
Amendment 3 (Proposal from PPFI to amend A5 in the draft proposal):\\
Submitted by PPFI:\\
variant 1: drop the sentence “Pirates will never join a political group hosting extremist parties and movements.”\\
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/motion-amendments-thread/440/20\\
PP-CZ: -6\\
PP-FI: +1\\
PP-FR: -1\\
PP-DE: -2\\
Pirati.io: +1\\
PP-IS: missing in action\\
PP-LU: -2\\
PP-NL: +1\\
PP-CAT: -1\\
PP-SE: -1\\
PP-S: +1\\
PP-SK: missing in action\\
YPE: -2\\
MEPs: -2\\

Yes: 4\\
No: 17\\
Abstain: /\\

The proposal is rejected by the council\\ 

CPS PPFI 2 - VOTE A\\
Proposal to amend A5 in the draft proposal:\\
Submitted by PPFI\\
proposal: rephrase “Pirates will never join a political group hosting parties and movements with agenda including racism, xenophobia or suppression of human rights.”\\

CPS PPNL1 VOTE B\\
Proposal to amend A5 in the draft proposal:\\
Submitted by PPNL\\
Replace A5 with the following text:\\
The Pirate delegation will only join a political group that is democratic, supporting freedom, progress and positive European solutions of common problems. Pirates will never join a political group hosting extremist parties and movements.\\

CPS PPNL2 VOTE C\\
Proposal to amend A5 in the draft proposal:\\
Submitted by PPNL\\
Replace A5 with the following text:\\
The Pirate delegation will only support idea’s that include democratic, supporting freedom, progress and positive European solutions of common problems. Pirates will radically include parties with ideas that include all human beings in their sexuality, ethnicity, religion and other diversities chosen or born with.votes\\

The council votes using approval voting and a quorum of 1/2 (of votes expressed)\\

PP-CZ: 6A, 6B\\
PP-FI: 1A, 1C\\
PP-FR: 1A\\
PP-DE: 2A, 2B\\
Pirati.io: abstain\\
PP-IS:3\\
PP-LU: 2A\\
PP-NL: 1C\\
PP-CAT:\\
PP-SE: 1C\\
PP-SI: 1A\\
PP-SK: 1A\\
YPE: 2A\\
MEPs: 2B\\

VOTE A: 14\\
VOTE B: 10
VOTE C: 3\\
Total votes: 21, quorum 10.5.\\
Abstain:1\\

Option A passes alone.\\

Vote for replacing the current text of A5 with option A from above:\\

PP-CZ:+6\\
PP-FI:+1\\
PP-FR:-1\\
PP-DE:+2\\
Pirati.io:+1\\
PP-IS:\\
PP-LU:+2\\
PP-NL:0\\
PP-CAT:\\
PP-SE:0\\
PP-SI:+1\\
PP-SK:+1\\
YPE:+2\\
MEPs:+2\\

+18\\
2 abstain\\
-1\\

lunch break starts here @13:20\\
regroup expected @14:30 CEST\\
regrouping @14:38\\
Proceeded @14:42\\

For the second part of the council meeting Stefan Dekkers takes over as delegate of PPNL with one vote. \\
For the second part of the council meeting Henrik Passmark takes over as delegate of PPFI with one vote. \\

PP-CZ: present\\
PP-FI: present\\
PP-FR: present\\
PP-DE: present\\
Pirati.io: present\\
PP-IS: present\\
PP-LU: present\\
PP-NL: present (restarting atm)\\
PP-CAT: present\\
PP-SE: present\\
PP-SI: present\\
PP-SK: present\\
YPE: present\\
MEPs: present\\

**CPS final vote with all amendments:**
PP-CZ: +6\\
PP-FI:\\
PP-FR: abstain (1 vote)\\
PP-DE: +2\\
Pirati.io: +1\\
PP-IS: +3\\
PP-LU: +2\\
PP-NL: +1\\
PP-CAT:\\
PP-SE: +1\\
PP-SI: +1\\
PP-SK: +1\\
YPE: +2\\
MEPs: +2\\

22 yes, 1 abstain\\
CPS is approved by the council\\


**15:02-17:30**
**Proposals**

**Start with preamble and amendments to it**

[https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/final-vote-on-the-proposal-for-the-2024-ceep-s-preamble/499] \\

PP-CZ:aaaaaa,bbbbbb \\
PP-FI: b \\
PP-FR: a (1 vote) \\
PP-DE: aa,bb (2 votes) \\
Pirati.io:a \\
PP-IS: \\
PP-LU:aa (2 votes) \\
PP-NL: a (1 vote) \\
PP-CAT: \\
PP-SE: b, c \\
PP-SI: \\
PP-SK:a \\
YPE: aa (2 votes) \\
MEPs: aa (2 votes) \\

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 18 \\
bbbbbbbbbb 10 \\
c 1 \\

Proposal A was approved by the council.

Final vote on the chapter Human Rights in the Digital Age \\
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-the-chapter-human-rights-in-the-digital-age/502 \\
PP-CZ:+6 \\
PP-FI:+1 \\
PP-FR: -1 \\
PP-DE: +2 \\
Pirati.io: -1 \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU:+2 \\
PP-NL:+1 \\
PP-CAT: 0 \\
PP-SE:+1 \\
PP-SI:+1 \\
PP-SK:+1 \\
YPE: +2 \\
MEPs:+1 -1  \\

15 Yes \\
3 No \\
1 abstain \\

Proposal was approved by the council. \\

**Social Affairs and Healthcare**

amendments by PPCZ and PPDE \\

Gravfu is delegating the PPFR vote to Martin \\

https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposals-for-the-chapter-social-affairs-healthcare/503 \\
PP-CZ: 0, +6 \\
PP-FI: +1, +1 \\
PP-FR: -1, -1 \\
PP-DE: +2, +2 \\
Pirati.io: +1, +1 \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU: +2, +2 \\
PP-NL: +1, +1 \\
PP-CAT: +1, +1 \\
PP-SE: +1, +1, \\
PP-SI: +1, +1 \\
PP-SK: 0, +1 \\
YPE: +2, +2 \\
MEPs: 0, +1 ; -1, -1 \\

a: 12+; 2-; 7 = \\
b: 19+; 2-; 0 = \\

    
break @1622 \\
regroup @1630 \\

**Voting on thread 503 reopens to add proposal PPCZ4 **
PP-CZ: Yes (6 votes) \\
PP-FI: No (1 vote) \\
PP-FR: No (1 vote) \\
PP-DE: Yes (2 votes) \\
Pirati.io: Yes (1 vote) \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU: Yes (2 votes) \\
PP-NL: Yes (1 vote) \\
PP-CAT: Yes (1 vote) \\
PP-SE: No (1 vote) \\
PP-SI: Yes (1 vote) \\
PP-SK: Yes (1 vote) \\
YPE: Yes (2 votes) \\
MEPs: 1 vote yes, 1 vote no \\

18 Yes \\
4 No \\
0 Abstain \\

Proposal was approved by the council.

Rudolf is casting the vote of PPSK from Peter Pavel \\

The second proposal was approved by the council.
    
**Final vote on Proposal for the chapter Civil Society**
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-civil-society/507 \\
PP-CZ: yes (6 votes) \\
PP-FI: \\
PP-FR: yes (1 vote) \\
PP-DE: yes (2 votes) \\
Pirati.io: yes (1 vote) \\
PP-IS: \\
PP-LU: yes (2 votes) \\
PP-NL: yes (1 vote) \\
PP-CAT: yes (1 vote) \\
PP-SE: \\
PP-SI: yes (1 vote) \\
PP-SK: yes (2 votes) \\
YPE: yes (2 votes) \\
MEPs: 1 yes, 1 no \\

20 Yes \\
1 No \\
0 Abstain \\
Proposal was approved by the council.


break until 16:30 \\
Matej is casting the 2 votes of YPE from Gravfu \\

**Final vote on the german Proposal for the chapter Foreign Affairs**
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-foreign-affairs/509 \\
PP-CZ: +6 \\
PP-FI:= \\
PP-FR: -1 \\
PP-DE: +2 \\
Pirati.io: = \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU: +2 \\
PP-NL:+1 \\
PP-CAT: -1 \\
PP-SE: = \\
PP-SI:+1 \\
PP-SK: = \\
YPE: +2 \\
MEPs: -2 \\

14 in favour \\
4 against \\
4 abstain \\

approved by the council

**Foreign Affairs PPSE3**
PP-CZ:+6 \\
PP-FI:+1 \\
PP-FR:+1 \\
PP-DE:+2 \\
Pirati.io:+1 \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU:+2 \\
PP-NL:+1 \\
PP-CAT: +1 \\
PP-SE: +1 \\
PP-SI:+1 \\
PP-SK:= \\
YPE: -2 \\
MEPs: -2 \\

17 for \\
4 against \\
1 abstain \\

approved by the council.

**Final vote on Proposal for the chapter Drug and Addiction Policy**
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-drug-and-addiction-policy/510 \\
PP-CZ:+6 \\
PP-FI:+1 \\
PP-FR:= \\
PP-DE:+2 \\
Pirati.io: +1 \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU:+2 \\
PP-NL:= \\
PP-CAT:+1 \\
PP-SE:+1 \\
PP-SI:+1 \\
PP-SK:+1 \\
YPE:+2 \\
MEPs:-2 \\

18 in favor \\
2 Against \\
2 Abstain  \\

approved by the council

**Final vote on Proposal for the chapter Regional Development**
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-regional-development/512 \\
PP-CZ:+6 \\
PP-FI:+1 \\
PP-FR:= \\
PP-DE:+2 \\
Pirati.io:+1 \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU:+2 \\
PP-NL:+1 \\
PP-CAT:+1 \\
PP-SE:+1 \\
PP-SI:+1 \\
PP-SK:+1 \\
YPE: +2 \\
MEPs:+2 \\

21 for \\
1 abstains \\

approved by the council

Raman delegates the votes of PPCZ to Mike \\

[https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-the-eu-space-programme/513] \\
PP-CZ: +6 \\
PP-FI: missing in action \\
PP-FR:= \\
PP-DE:+2 \\
Pirati.io: -1 \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU:2= \\
PP-NL:= \\
PP-CAT: +1 \\
PP-SE: missing in action \\
PP-SI:= \\
PP-SK:= \\
YPE:+2 \\
MEPs: -2 \\

11+ \\
3- \\
6= \\

approved by the council

Alessandro thanks everyone for their work and commitment to the European Pirates \\

** Adoption of the [[programme:ceep2024|Common European Election Program (CEEP)]] for the 2024 European Elections**
** Adoption of a [[common_pirate_strategy|Common Pirate Strategy]] for the 2024 European Elections **
VOTE Ratification process \\
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-ratification-process/514 \\
PP-CZ:+6 \\
PP-FI:+1 \\
PP-FR:+1 \\
PP-DE:+2 \\
Pirati.io:+1 \\
PP-IS: missing in action \\
PP-LU:+2 \\
PP-NL:+1 \\
PP-CAT:+1 \\
PP-SE:+1 \\
PP-SI:+1 \\
PP-SK: missing in action \\
YPE:+2 \\
MEPs:+2 \\

21 in favor \\
0 against \\
0 abstain \\

approved by the council.

the previous board is discharged.  \\

**17:30-18:00**
- AOB\\
- Final greetings\\

**Closing of the meeting**

the meeting is closed @17:58