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13th_council_meeting_2023:minutes

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Recording:https://owncloud.ag-technik.de/s/tPb6Wjo7wXJLZKa

Draft Agenda

9:30-10:00 Meeting administration - Opening of the meeting and registration of delegates

PP-AT: –> asked to be observer member?
PP-CZ: Mike Gill, Raman Ojha (6 Votes) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-EE: –> asked to be observer member
PP-FI : Marek Nečada (1 Vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-FR: Vincent Douroux (gravfu) (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-DE: Anne Herpertz, Daniel Mönch (2 votes) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-GR:
Pirati.io: Marco Confalonieri (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-IT: 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-IS Iceland: Kristín Ólafsdóttir (3 Votes) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-LU Luxembourg: Carole Weiler (2 Votes) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-NL: Mark van Treuren (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-NO:
PP-PL:
PP-CAT: Exile (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-ES: not existent
PP-SE: Henrik Passmark + Alexandra (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
PP-CH:
PP- SI: Aljaž Božičko (1 vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
Slovak: Rudolf (1 Vote) 2023 membership fees PAID
YPE : Christian Elia (replaced at point 4a) Maija Li Raudaskoski, Samuel Enenkl, Matej Belohoubek, Mili Sloukova, Vincent Douroux (gravfu) (2 votes)
MEPs : Paul Diegel + Anja Hirschel (2 votes)

- Welcoming remarks from the European Pirate Party chair
- Election of meeting chairs and minute takers

Meeting chairs: Mikulaš, Alessandro
approved

Minute takers: Petra, Lukas, Matthias, Cal
approved

*Approval of the agenda* approved as presented by board

10:00-10:10 Approval of new Members Application from the Estonian Pirate Party to become Observer member of the association
Marco (pirati.io) asks to make sure the request is legitimate and the operation is possible according to the pp-eu statutes
Mab in the comment section: A representative for the Estonian Pirate Party sent an email to the Board, just before the start of the previous Council meeting to switch the status of the Estonian PIrate Party from full member to Observer member. Due to this request coming too late to be addressed at that Council meeting it is on the agenda of this one instead
Cédric Levieux asks why they want to become observer member and want to loose their status of ordinary member
Chair moves this point to later on the agenda.
No objections

10:10-12:30 Finances and discharge Budget presented by Alessandro
Link to the transparent account: https://ib.fio.cz/ib/transparent?a=2701538320&lng=ENGLISH&f=01.01.2023&t=08.07.2023

Marek asks about 1000 euros for tech stuff.
Chair redirects the meeting to ask about the 2022 budget
Marco asks about the expense for the domain name (0€) and the treasurer reports that there is no invoice regarding it. The subject is confusing, and Mia, Florian, and Cedric's names come up.
Alessandro presents the issue of the newly discovered bank account we have no access to.

- Approval of the 22022 Annual Accounts
Link to the Budget 2022 discharge votes: [https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/budget-2022-discharge/477/11]

PP-LU joins the meeting; Carole Weiler is the delegate.
PP-FR joins the meeting; gravfu is the delegate.

PP-CZ: +6
PP-FI: +1
PP-FR: +1
PP-DE: +2
Pirati.io: +1
PP-IS Iceland: missing in action Was driving in the highlands with bad connection
PP-LU: +2
PP-NL: +1
PP-CAT: 0
PP-SE: +1
PP-SI: +1
Slovak: +1
YPE: missing in action
MEPs: +2

- Approval of the 2023 Budget

Marek asks about the expenses for the servers. Are we only paying for servers or also the service?
Basically we are only paying for the servers.

Chair opens the vote: [https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/budget-2023-proposal/479]

PP-CZ: +6 PP-FI: +1 PP-FR: +1 PP-DE: +2 Pirati.io: +1 PP-IS: missing in action PP-LU: +2 PP-NL: +1 PP-CAT: 0 PP-SE: +1 PP-SI: +1 PP-SK: +1 YPE: missing in action MEPs: +2

Approval of new Members Application from the Estonian Pirate Party to become Observer member of the association
No objections.

Alessandro asks about the status of pirate party of spain. He asks if they are still existing.
Exile answers, that there were some legal issues and that they could not get the name of Pirate Party Spain. He asks for patience as there are people in spain who want to rebuild the pirates in spain for the upcoming european elections.

Peter Pavel replaces Rudolf at the PPSK delegation.

- Discharge of the 2022 board
already covered - Report on the 2023 Accounts
already covered

Break of the session at 11:23 untill 11:35
YPE joins the meeting. 4 delegates (2 Votes): Maija Li Raudaskoski, Samuel Enenkl, Matej Belohoubek, Mili Sloukova replacing Christian Elia. Samuel Enenkl is casting the votes
Common pirate strategy is moved to before lunch break
Mikulaš presents the Common Pirate Strategy for the 2024 European Elections- link: [https://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=common_pirate_strategy]
Chair introduces the amendment proposals.[https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/motion-amendments-thread/440/4] and [https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/motion-amendments-thread/440/15]
Anja speaks for the the proposal regarding the first amendment (changes in A 7), rejecting xenophobic, nationalist, and racist ideas instead of respecting a hard cordon sanitaire. (we could vote in favor of good AMs whoever tables them)

Marco notes that the UDHR includes intellectual property rights at article 27 §2

voting starts with amendment 3

Amendment 1 (cordon sanitaire) Proposal: to replace the text in A7 in the Board proposal with the following text:
The Pirate delegation shall firmly oppose xenophobic, nationalist, and racist ideas.
PP-CZ: +6
PP-FI: +1
PP-FR: abstain
PP-DE: missing in action
Pirati.io: +1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU: +2
PP-NL: missing in action
PP-CAT: missing in action
PP-SE: missing in action
PP-SI: +1
PP-SK: +1
YPE: abstain (2 votes)
MEPs: +2

Yes: 13
No: 0
abstain: 2

Amendment 2 (chairperson of the pirate delegation)
Proposal: to delete the last sentence in paragraph A6. So the sentence “The chairperson of the Pirate delegation shall be the natural candidate for any office within the bureau of the Group, the bodies of
Parliament or the European commission.” would be deleted
PP-CZ: +6
PP-FI: +1
PP-FR:
PP-DE: +2
Pirati.io: +1
PP-IS:
PP-LU: +2
PP-NL: +1
PP-CAT: abstain
PP-SE: +1
PP-SI: +1
PP-SK:+1
YPE: +2
MEPs: +2

Yes: 20
No: 0
Abstain: 1

Voted first:
Amendment 3 (Proposal from PPFI to amend A5 in the draft proposal):
Submitted by PPFI:
variant 1: drop the sentence “Pirates will never join a political group hosting extremist parties and movements.”
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/motion-amendments-thread/440/20
PP-CZ: -6
PP-FI: +1
PP-FR: -1
PP-DE: -2
Pirati.io: +1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU: -2
PP-NL: +1
PP-CAT: -1
PP-SE: -1
PP-S: +1
PP-SK: missing in action
YPE: -2
MEPs: -2

Yes: 4
No: 17
Abstain: /

The proposal is rejected by the council

CPS PPFI 2 - VOTE A
Proposal to amend A5 in the draft proposal:
Submitted by PPFI
proposal: rephrase “Pirates will never join a political group hosting parties and movements with agenda including racism, xenophobia or suppression of human rights.”

CPS PPNL1 VOTE B
Proposal to amend A5 in the draft proposal:
Submitted by PPNL
Replace A5 with the following text:
The Pirate delegation will only join a political group that is democratic, supporting freedom, progress and positive European solutions of common problems. Pirates will never join a political group hosting extremist parties and movements.

CPS PPNL2 VOTE C
Proposal to amend A5 in the draft proposal:
Submitted by PPNL
Replace A5 with the following text:
The Pirate delegation will only support idea’s that include democratic, supporting freedom, progress and positive European solutions of common problems. Pirates will radically include parties with ideas that include all human beings in their sexuality, ethnicity, religion and other diversities chosen or born with.votes

The council votes using approval voting and a quorum of 1/2 (of votes expressed)

PP-CZ: 6A, 6B
PP-FI: 1A, 1C
PP-FR: 1A
PP-DE: 2A, 2B
Pirati.io: abstain
PP-IS:3
PP-LU: 2A
PP-NL: 1C
PP-CAT:
PP-SE: 1C
PP-SI: 1A
PP-SK: 1A
YPE: 2A
MEPs: 2B

VOTE A: 14
VOTE B: 10 VOTE C: 3
Total votes: 21, quorum 10.5.
Abstain:1

Option A passes alone.

Vote for replacing the current text of A5 with option A from above:

PP-CZ:+6
PP-FI:+1
PP-FR:-1
PP-DE:+2
Pirati.io:+1
PP-IS:
PP-LU:+2
PP-NL:0
PP-CAT:
PP-SE:0
PP-SI:+1
PP-SK:+1
YPE:+2
MEPs:+2

+18
2 abstain
-1

lunch break starts here @13:20
regroup expected @14:30 CEST
regrouping @14:38
Proceeded @14:42

For the second part of the council meeting Stefan Dekkers takes over as delegate of PPNL with one vote.
For the second part of the council meeting Henrik Passmark takes over as delegate of PPFI with one vote.

PP-CZ: present
PP-FI: present
PP-FR: present
PP-DE: present
Pirati.io: present
PP-IS: present
PP-LU: present
PP-NL: present (restarting atm)
PP-CAT: present
PP-SE: present
PP-SI: present
PP-SK: present
YPE: present
MEPs: present

CPS final vote with all amendments: PP-CZ: +6
PP-FI:
PP-FR: abstain (1 vote)
PP-DE: +2
Pirati.io: +1
PP-IS: +3
PP-LU: +2
PP-NL: +1
PP-CAT:
PP-SE: +1
PP-SI: +1
PP-SK: +1
YPE: +2
MEPs: +2

22 yes, 1 abstain
CPS is approved by the council

15:02-17:30 Proposals

Start with preamble and amendments to it

[https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/final-vote-on-the-proposal-for-the-2024-ceep-s-preamble/499]

PP-CZ:aaaaaa,bbbbbb
PP-FI: b
PP-FR: a (1 vote)
PP-DE: aa,bb (2 votes)
Pirati.io:a
PP-IS:
PP-LU:aa (2 votes)
PP-NL: a (1 vote)
PP-CAT:
PP-SE: b, c
PP-SI:
PP-SK:a
YPE: aa (2 votes)
MEPs: aa (2 votes)

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa 18
bbbbbbbbbb 10
c 1

Proposal A was approved by the council.

Final vote on the chapter Human Rights in the Digital Age
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-the-chapter-human-rights-in-the-digital-age/502
PP-CZ:+6
PP-FI:+1
PP-FR: -1
PP-DE: +2
Pirati.io: -1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU:+2
PP-NL:+1
PP-CAT: 0
PP-SE:+1
PP-SI:+1
PP-SK:+1
YPE: +2
MEPs:+1 -1

15 Yes
3 No
1 abstain

Proposal was approved by the council.

Social Affairs and Healthcare

amendments by PPCZ and PPDE

Gravfu is delegating the PPFR vote to Martin

https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposals-for-the-chapter-social-affairs-healthcare/503
PP-CZ: 0, +6
PP-FI: +1, +1
PP-FR: -1, -1
PP-DE: +2, +2
Pirati.io: +1, +1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU: +2, +2
PP-NL: +1, +1
PP-CAT: +1, +1
PP-SE: +1, +1,
PP-SI: +1, +1
PP-SK: 0, +1
YPE: +2, +2
MEPs: 0, +1 ; -1, -1

a: 12+; 2-; 7 =
b: 19+; 2-; 0 =

break @1622
regroup @1630

Voting on thread 503 reopens to add proposal PPCZ4 PP-CZ: Yes (6 votes)
PP-FI: No (1 vote)
PP-FR: No (1 vote)
PP-DE: Yes (2 votes)
Pirati.io: Yes (1 vote)
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU: Yes (2 votes)
PP-NL: Yes (1 vote)
PP-CAT: Yes (1 vote)
PP-SE: No (1 vote)
PP-SI: Yes (1 vote)
PP-SK: Yes (1 vote)
YPE: Yes (2 votes)
MEPs: 1 vote yes, 1 vote no

18 Yes
4 No
0 Abstain

Proposal was approved by the council.

Rudolf is casting the vote of PPSK from Peter Pavel

The second proposal was approved by the council.

Final vote on Proposal for the chapter Civil Society https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-civil-society/507
PP-CZ: yes (6 votes)
PP-FI:
PP-FR: yes (1 vote)
PP-DE: yes (2 votes)
Pirati.io: yes (1 vote)
PP-IS:
PP-LU: yes (2 votes)
PP-NL: yes (1 vote)
PP-CAT: yes (1 vote)
PP-SE:
PP-SI: yes (1 vote)
PP-SK: yes (2 votes)
YPE: yes (2 votes)
MEPs: 1 yes, 1 no

20 Yes
1 No
0 Abstain
Proposal was approved by the council.

break until 16:30
Matej is casting the 2 votes of YPE from Gravfu

Final vote on the german Proposal for the chapter Foreign Affairs https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-foreign-affairs/509
PP-CZ: +6
PP-FI:=
PP-FR: -1
PP-DE: +2
Pirati.io: =
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU: +2
PP-NL:+1
PP-CAT: -1
PP-SE: =
PP-SI:+1
PP-SK: =
YPE: +2
MEPs: -2

14 in favour
4 against
4 abstain

approved by the council

Foreign Affairs PPSE3 PP-CZ:+6
PP-FI:+1
PP-FR:+1
PP-DE:+2
Pirati.io:+1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU:+2
PP-NL:+1
PP-CAT: +1
PP-SE: +1
PP-SI:+1
PP-SK:=
YPE: -2
MEPs: -2

17 for
4 against
1 abstain

approved by the council.

Final vote on Proposal for the chapter Drug and Addiction Policy https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-drug-and-addiction-policy/510
PP-CZ:+6
PP-FI:+1
PP-FR:=
PP-DE:+2
Pirati.io: +1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU:+2
PP-NL:=
PP-CAT:+1
PP-SE:+1
PP-SI:+1
PP-SK:+1
YPE:+2
MEPs:-2

18 in favor
2 Against
2 Abstain

approved by the council

Final vote on Proposal for the chapter Regional Development https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-regional-development/512
PP-CZ:+6
PP-FI:+1
PP-FR:=
PP-DE:+2
Pirati.io:+1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU:+2
PP-NL:+1
PP-CAT:+1
PP-SE:+1
PP-SI:+1
PP-SK:+1
YPE: +2
MEPs:+2

21 for
1 abstains

approved by the council

Raman delegates the votes of PPCZ to Mike

[https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-final-vote-on-proposal-for-the-chapter-the-eu-space-programme/513]
PP-CZ: +6
PP-FI: missing in action
PP-FR:=
PP-DE:+2
Pirati.io: -1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU:2=
PP-NL:=
PP-CAT: +1
PP-SE: missing in action
PP-SI:=
PP-SK:=
YPE:+2
MEPs: -2

11+
3-
6=

approved by the council

Alessandro thanks everyone for their work and commitment to the European Pirates

Adoption of the Common European Election Program (CEEP) for the 2024 European Elections Adoption of a Common Pirate Strategy for the 2024 European Elections VOTE Ratification process
https://discourse.european-pirateparty.eu/t/vote-ratification-process/514
PP-CZ:+6
PP-FI:+1
PP-FR:+1
PP-DE:+2
Pirati.io:+1
PP-IS: missing in action
PP-LU:+2
PP-NL:+1
PP-CAT:+1
PP-SE:+1
PP-SI:+1
PP-SK: missing in action
YPE:+2
MEPs:+2

21 in favor
0 against
0 abstain

approved by the council.

the previous board is discharged.

17:30-18:00 - AOB
- Final greetings

Closing of the meeting

the meeting is closed @17:58

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