PPEU Programme working group meeting minutes

Location:  mumble.piratenpartei-nrw.de:64738  
Channel:   International -> PPEU
Schedule:  22.05.2012   21:30 CEST
Minutes:   Everyone
Chairman:  Martina P.
Start:     21:40 CEST
End:       23:02 CEST
Next meet: May 29th 2012 (In regular)

Agenda

Administration
Introduction round
Process in this work group
Jerry's blog post
Miscellanea

Administration

Participants:

Krishna (b@YouPirate.eu) PP-DE
Adrian Pappas pappasadrian@pirateparty.gr PP-GR
Robotica - Daniele Monteleone (robotica@robotica.it) - PP-IT
Luciana - (luciana@robotica.it) PP-IT
Martina (martina.poeser@bremen.piratenpartei.de) - PP-DE
Muriel (muriel@pirata.cat) [PPCAT]
Jerry @jerryweyer
polnetz @polnetz netz@sploing.fr
Mia utz55@web.de (PP-DE)
Stephen Ogden (Azrael) s.ogden@pirateparty.org.uk - PPUK
Venanzio Basso (venanzio.basso@piratenpartei-hessen.de) PP-DE
Kissandrakis George (giorgos@kissandrakis.gr) PP-GR
Patrick Schiffer (patrick.schiffer@piratenpartei-nrw.de) PP-DE
Loïc Grobol (Evpok) loic.grobol@gmail.com
Alan Winkleman (Mountview4946@kabelmail.de)
Franco Zizzo (f.zizzo@t-online.de)

Elect Keeper of the minutes

Candidates: None special.

Elect chairman

Candidates: Martina, got elected

Approve last meeting's minutes

Minutes 15.05.2012 approved
Comments (who): none

Approve today's agenda

Comments (who): Adrian was new and asked for an introduction round, agreed.

Previous ToDos

ToDo	What	Who	When	Status
Contributors' page	see http://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=programme:contributors If you do not have an account yet you can register on the wiki page itself when clicking on Login.	krishna	22.05.2012	Done
Contact info	were sent to ML	pakki, krishna, et al.	22.05.2012	Done
Contact info	I can easily contact some.	polnetz		I
Formal Invitation of parties	Muriel sent an invitation letter to all International Coordinators of European Pirate Parties. No answers yet. Italy just answered on the conference date for the statutes group.	Muriel	May 19th 2012	Done

Introduction round

Done.

Process in this work group

Topic	What	Who	When	Type
Location	All work takes place in pads, linked to https://eu.piratenpad.de/ppeu-programme and follow the given pad structure.	Martina		I
Coarse process	process (see below) presented (Krishna)			R
Step1.1	The copy&paste in step 1 does not require thorough language skill and can happen quickly.			I
What should be copied? (robotica)	We consider only official programs. No programs pending approval should be used. Such programs can be included via step 3.			R
Links to programs	http://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=programme:programme_details contains many. (please update where you find up to date info about programs)	Krishna		I
Register skills	Please update info about yourselves here: http://wiki.ppeu.net/doku.php?id=programme:contributors	Everyone	May 29th. 2012	T
Translation squad	Check whether the translation squad can help with some translations from rare languages?	ACT (?)	end of step 1.1	T
Translation	Translations can be completed after May 29th also	all		R
1.I-1.III ¹⁾	Austria	Martina	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ²⁾	France	Evpok, AlanW,Polnetz, Mia	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ³⁾	Germany	Venanzio, Mia	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ⁴⁾	Portugal	Polnetz	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ⁵⁾	Belgium	Polnetz, Evpok, pakki	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ⁶⁾	Catalonia	Muriel	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ⁷⁾	United Kingdom	AlanW, StephenO	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ⁸⁾	Greece	pappasadrian, kissand	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ⁹⁾	Italy	Luciana, robotica	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ¹⁰⁾	Luxembourg	Mia	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ¹¹⁾	Netherlands	pakki	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ¹²⁾	Switzerland	Polnetz	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ¹³⁾	Cyprus	pappasadrian	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ¹⁴⁾	Malta	Mia	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ¹⁵⁾	Identify persons for Czech Republic, Estonia, Finland, Kazakhstan, Norway, Poland, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, Slovakia, Spain, Sweden, Ukraine, Denmark, Bulgaria, Latvia, Lithuania	ACT	May 29th 2012	T
1.I-1.III ¹⁶⁾	Some of the Leftovers	Krishna	May 29th 2012	T

Step 1:
1. assign persons to programmes
2. copy & paste those programmes into the corresponding sections of the various pads. Create a new one if there is no suitable one.
3. translate into the pads

Step 2:
1. assign persons to topics (partly done)
2. extract information
3. identify and separate the conflicting parts
4. move to more abstract level if necessary
5. identify and separate the common parts
Step 3:
1. update with newly joining party programmes (e.g rare languages)
2. continuous

Jerry's blog post

Topic	What	Who	Type
Presentation	Unfortunately Jerry left, but everybody read the post (and answers). 1. Mapping EU Pirate Parties – a common program for the 2014 EU elections: http://jay.lu/?p=1811 2. Common Program for European Pirate Parties - United in Diversity: http://jay.lu/?p=2184		I
What to track?	I think we should not only keep track of the common parts, but also of differing / conflicting parts. We save effort in case of program updates / changes and it helps us in the vision creation also.	krishna	R
Responsability	It was suggested that the Statutes group handles the Preamble (Krishna). This group will not handle it at the moment.		R

Miscellanea

Topic	What	Who	When	Type
Program technical format	Suggestion is to have programs linkable instead of html. Will prepare Wiki struture to do so. Accordingly, is it realistic to ask the parties to always provide their programs in English, too (Help would be offered)? → nice thought, but not feasible right now	krishna		T
Pad update	Add an additional chapter “Conflicting parts” corresponding to “Common parts”	Martina	May 29th 2012	T

Type: I=Information, T=Todo, R=Resolution

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1.III as possible

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